I’m a Tesla guy first and foremost, but
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That thing is hideous.I’m a Tesla guy first and foremost, but
I’m a Tesla guy first and foremost, but
You are looking at this through Tesla-colored lenses. I’m looking at it through a purely economical sense. If I’m going to be purchasing a new vehicle for the sole purpose of commuting around town, want low running costs, and something that is comfortable and reliable, it makes sense. It’s basically an EV Sonata or Camry. It’s cheap and gets the job done, so why would I pay more for a Highland? If the Highland still had the tax credit, that’d be a different story.If you want to save money, than I guess that's a different story....
but, how does that even compare to a Tesla Model 3 highland? Might be in a similar price range, but a Tesla M3 with AP, charging network, speed, power, handling, features blow ALL other EV car makers out the water. I don't see how this can even compare...
If you want to save money, than I guess that's a different story....
but, how does that even compare to a Tesla Model 3 highland? Might be in a similar price range, but a Tesla M3 with AP, charging network, speed, power, handling, features blow ALL other EV car makers out the water. I don't see how this can even compare...
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Your drinking the Tesla kool-aid.
For most, $9,000 (tax free) is more than a month’s salary.
The Ioniq 6 does use Tesla Superchargers.
Tesla’s autopilot doesn’t work. The IONIQ 6 has lane assist and cruise control, it works well.
Randy Parker, the CEO of Hyundai USA doesn’t embarrass me. Pretty sure he’s never told others to F**k off, F**K OFF on national television.
As far as performance, Tesla is less than truthful about range, acceleration and the like. Hyundai’s numbers are typically conservative. Who's numbers are you using?
From Motor Trend
The fit and finish of the Ioniq 6 makes the Model 3 look cheap and downmarket. The panel gaps are tight, the paint superb, and the lights glitter like jewelry. Inside, the Hyundai looks and feels like a luxury car compared with the Bauhaus-bare cabin of the Model 3, with well-chosen materials and sophisticated forms and detailing.
If I was in the market, I’d visit my Hyundai dealer for a test drive.
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let's see:If you want to save money, than I guess that's a different story....
but, how does that even compare to a Tesla Model 3 highland? Might be in a similar price range, but a Tesla M3 with AP, charging network, speed, power, handling, features blow ALL other EV car makers out the water. I don't see how this can even compare...
Hyundai is providing a NACS adapter this year and Tesla will open up their SC network. Later this year all Hyundais will factory ship with the NACS port. It is a non issue if you can wait a few months for the adapter.1) That sounds about right for our family. Our monthly income is roughly $9,000 take-home/after taxes (my wife and I combined). However, the median family income in the U.S. is FAR lower, and $9,000 of total family income could be two or more months' salary for them. So I agree, $9,000 is nothing to scoff at in the grand scheme of things.
2) Ioniq 6 works on SOME Superchargers. Magic Dock is not widespread at all across the United States... yet. I'd imagine that Magic Dock installations are currently in the low single digits of all installed U.S. Superchargers (although I could be wrong).
For us, Supercharger access isn't even a big deal (although it may be for people that road trip more often). We have a Tesla wall charger in the garage. For the past year (according to the Tesla app), I've charged 90 percent at home and 10 percent on a Supercharger with my Model 3. My wife has charged 95 percent at home and 5 percent at a Supercharger with her Model Y. If we get an Ioniq 6 for our son, Supercharger access won't be an issue -- he'll charge at home on the Tesla charger with an adapter. Family road trips are taken in the Y.
3) Tesla Autopilot works PERFECTLY for me . I had some rare phantom braking occurrences when I first got my 3, but I haven't had any in the past two years (I've had the car for 2.5 years now).
4) I won't argue about the fit/finish. It doesn't really bother me with my Tesla, but the Hyundai/Kia build and paint quality is, in general, better than Tesla, IMHO. However, I do like the soft touch materials all through the cabin of our 3/Y and nothing is really offensive.
To be clear, they are shipping the NACS adapter to owners of older Hyundai’s free of charge. That’s customer service.Hyundai is providing a NACS adapter this year and Tesla will open up their SC network. Later this year all Hyundais will factory ship with the NACS port. It is a non issue if you can wait a few months for the adapter.
If you want to save money, than I guess that's a different story....
but, how does that even compare to a Tesla Model 3 highland? Might be in a similar price range, but a Tesla M3 with AP, charging network, speed, power, handling, features blow ALL other EV car makers out the water. I don't see how this can even compare...
Yes, the Model 3 RWD was cheaper last month. But that's not the case today, with the tax credit now gone for the Model 3 RWD and Long Range. And no, the Ioniq 6 doesn't qualify for the federal credit, which is why Hyundai is putting cash on the hood.The December pricing of RWD Model 3 with discounts and tax credit was still a better though...if I'm not mistaken, no Hyundai EV qualifies for the fed tax credit right?
yup. and EVERYONE gets it. My guess is that quite a few folks here were income wise never eligible for the tax credit but the cash rebate from Hyundai is applicable to everyone. basically: msrp minus $7500 and add whatever other discounts dealers offer right now. the $7500 comes from Hyundai corporate so no dealer BS.Yes, the Model 3 RWD was cheaper last month. But that's not the case today, with the tax credit now gone for the Model 3 RWD and Long Range. And no, the Ioniq 6 doesn't qualify for the federal credit, which is why Hyundai is putting cash on the hood.
Hyundai is providing a NACS adapter this year and Tesla will open up their SC network. Later this year all Hyundais will factory ship with the NACS port. It is a non issue if you can wait a few months for the adapter.
I’m a Tesla guy first and foremost, but
They will have access to the Tesla SC network at some point this year(Q3+). However due to the 800V architecture, owners are not going to get good charging speeds from current SC which are designed for 400V.
No, adapter will be offered 2025Q1.
No, NACS port not offered 2025.
Only the Kia EV6 will be offered with NACS before then.
It will still be really good. An Ioniq 5 on 800V does 10-80% in 18 minutes, but it only grows to 25 minutes on a 400 V charger. Should be exactly the same for an Ioniq 6 on a Gen 3 Supercharger.They will have access to the Tesla SC network at some point this year(Q3+). However due to the 800V architecture, owners are not going to get good charging speeds from current SC which are designed for 400V.