Thanks. I was wondering if people with curbed rims were driving the Model S because it's about five inches wider than a Model 3. That's 2.5 inches on each side, and that's the difference between "uncomfortably close" and a curbed rim.2020 Model 3
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Thanks. I was wondering if people with curbed rims were driving the Model S because it's about five inches wider than a Model 3. That's 2.5 inches on each side, and that's the difference between "uncomfortably close" and a curbed rim.2020 Model 3
I posted a similar thread from my experience last night. FSD curbed both passenger side rims and it wasn’t a matter of not being vigilant. The car was in FSD, driving great...
I feel your pain.Unfortunately it was a sick joke... This is one of the few times I use FSD beta v12
Interesting as the curb is painted red as well. I feel like the car really can't gauge its distance to curbs well enough.I feel your pain.
FSD 12.3.3 on a brand new (400 miles) '24 MX
Hit the curb when exiting a traffic circle. No challenging traffic.
Interesting as the curb is painted red as well. I feel like the car really can't gauge its distance to curbs well enough.
FSD curbed my model 3, so I am unsure. But I also think S, X, and Y will have a higher curb rate considering their width.I have a hypothesis. Are all the reports of curbing wheels from Model Y & X?
There is a major influence of Model 3 training data of course. The path charted by Model 3 from human drivers is not always acceptable for Y and X as they are wider, but the FSD system might not take that into account yet. It just does what its nets have seen as examples of human driving, and the point of view is from the center of the car.
This is a deficiency going to end-to-end nets (not insolvable but harder) instead of explicit physical space path planning and optimization and physics knowledge of sizes/widths, vehicle boundary and drivable area boundary.
FSD curbed my model 3, so I am unsure. But I also think S, X, and Y will have a higher curb rate considering their width.
Actually I don't get this part. Supposedly FSDs learns by watching millions upon millions of right hand turn videos to mimic an AI-generated precise route for the cirmstances.You would think they could have run FSD by now on plenty of 3 / Y so that doesn't happen when they offer a "free trial" to anyone. My "trial" FSD also nearly curbed my vehicle but I intervened and haven't used it since... not worth ruining a wheel ...
sorry see video attached at 39-40 seconds. slow to 1/2 speeda painful and expensive case of severe road rash for FSD 12.3.3 with expensive repair and misalignment for sure. FF to 40 seconds in video and slow down at 1/2 speed. shows the dust up from the curb rash. FSD taking turns at the tights I have seen in 3yrs of being in the FSD beta program. This is my first documented case of car damage. I supervise but this time it just went a little too close and I gave it to much leeway to correct and it did not and was too late to back out of the curb rash.
Also I was feeling somewhat invigorated when 12.1 came out and admit to a sense of added confidence in the software but it let me down in the end. 12.3.3 is the usual software update with regressions as has been the pattern for FSD updates in the past...
It gets old spending 10K on software with false promises that allows us the privilege of delivering thousands of dollars of damage to our cars.
It was good until it wasn't... same old FSD.
4-5 seconds into video...
also 3 years into FSD beta before I got my first case of curb rash4-5 seconds into video...
Actually I don't get this part. Supposedly FSDs learns by watching millions upon millions of right hand turn videos to mimic an AI-generated precise route for the cirmstances.
How many of those videos curbed the wheels? Presumably none. So WHERE did it learn to do otherwise?
no, my friend. It hit the car hard and car shifted. You have to run video at 1/2 speed to see the dust-up and the car shift after scraping the curb. attached is the photo right after I came home and the dust and rim damage are visible..I see it missing the curb.