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Long Road Trip - Is it possible to customize charge duration during stops?

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Hi all,

I have an upcoming long road trip and I'm running into some planning challenges.

Let's assume I'm starting at Point A (PA) and have scheduled overnight stops at (PB) and (PC) before reaching my final destination at (PD). How do I configure/inform the Tesla trip planner that the stops at (PB) and (PC) are going to be full charge stops?

The challenge I'm facing is that when I program the trip into the vehicle, only the segment of the trip from PA-PB contains appropriate stops and charging times. The segments from PB-PC and PC-PD are incorrect, because those segments have assuming a continuous trip PA-PD, without any full charge stops.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
 
Paes, I see you are in Canada, so I'm uncertain the number of Superchargers available to you. Will depend on your route anyway (duh). I think you will find, speaking as someone who does a yearly Cape Cod~Tucson~Cape Cod road trip in a Tesla MY LR that once on the road you'll see the in-car computation as to your next best stop(s) will be pretty obvious.

In short order you'll find yourself modifying your travel charging stops "on the fly."

Rich
 
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In addition to the already mentioned ABRP and ABRP App, you should consult https://plugshare.com or search Google maps for EV Chargers.
I’ve done a lot of long road trips, and I make it a practice to look for overnight chargers at hotels that offer it for free. I don’t mind if I have to use my J1772 adapter, not limiting it to only Tesla wall chargers.
If I find a hotel that offers charging, I also like to have it be in a town that offers supercharging as a back up. It’s easier, and sometimes free, to charge overnight a hotel just like you charge at home. But, many times they could be ICEd or another EV would be charging, so I have Superchargers as my back up plan. One thing to remember if you use the Superchargers, Always make sure you charge on arrival, up to 90%, because the battery is already warm. If you wait until the car is cold soaked in the morning, it will charge much slower.
Once I’ve established my route, I always adjust on the fly using the onboard navigation to adjust charging locations depending on where I wanna stop for meals, etc. Always make sure you navigate to your next charging station so the battery will precondition.
 
Hi all,

Jumping on this thread as a new member.
And I see Rich ^ from Cape Cod. That's great. I am Brian from central Mass.
I just booked with Hertz Rental in Worcester, MA a Model 3 for late June into early July.
I am traveling from Worcester MA out to Orange CA and back. I did it 4 times in the early 2000s when I worked for Toyota Motor Sales USA in Torrance, CA.

In any case, I need to keep the car moving reliably. I am seeing a specialist out in Orange. Whooo-hoooo!
So I am a neophyte completely with EVs.
But I am gleaning fast, that maybe I should supercharge on Tesla (only?) superchargers during the days, knocking the miles down, and then what wall-charge at night at accommodating hotels with the supplied adaptor?
Should I not bother with competitor super-charger stations on the road? Will I have all kinds of problems there?
The Hertz fine print says that authentic Tesla Superchargers bill back to them. And that kind of sucks. I had a nasty cleaning claim/whackball-charge with this Hertz location I had to argue off.

But back to charging, what can I expect average range highway driving off a 80-90% charge?
I once drove Memphis TN to Los Angeles in 2 days. The good old days. So, yeah, I won't be doing much sight seeing out and back.

I appreciate the advice!

-Brian
 
In any case, I need to keep the car moving reliably.

Brian:

Model 3 from Hertz(?), must be a Standard Range LFP model. Real world road range (depending on your speed and the weather) will be around 220 road miles (EPA says 260 miles, wanna bet?). Don’t bother to charge past around 70% at Superchargers when traveling (takes too much time past 70% State of Charge/SoC. 100% SoC overnight is fine.

“...maybe I should supercharge on Tesla (only?) superchargers...”

Basically, yeah. Unless you want to buy a $250 dollar adapter, fill out application in several other EV charging vendors, and learn how to use the other systems.

“...what can I expect average range highway driving off a 80-90% charge?...”

At 70 mph/220 miles. At 75 mph/190 miles. At 80 mph/160 miles. Those are rough guesses on my part. Anyway, keep it to 70% SoC or so at your stops. By the way, if you drive like a maniac (85~90 mph) you will be getting pretty poor range out of your EV.

Try to have around 15% SoC in your car at each of your charging stops. Just for your safety and the ability to get to another charger if needed.

Download the PlugShare app. Free and will show you where your Superchargers are located and help you plan a route.

Oh, and buy my book, Electric Vehicles, What About Them?!? Lots of good road travel info inside. Really.

Amazon.com

Best of luck!

Rich

PS
Wife and I driving from south of Tucson to Cape Cod end of May in our MY LR AWD! Do the trip twice a year.
 
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I used three methods:

ABRP, very customizable, including desired charge levels
Google Maps. It recognizes ‘supercharger’ as a search term
Finally the Tesla online planner. It gave me an idea of supercharger locations to then cross-reference in the ABRP and Google Maps.

I purposely chose supercharger locations that had hotels right there. Examples would be Brunswick GA and Stony Creek VA. I didn’t concern myself with ‘destination chargers’. They might be broken, ICE’d, and so on.

One interesting thing I discovered is that it was quick to charge to 65-70% at my destination and that was fine for “getting my trip done for the evening”, and for overnight Sentry mode.

Then in the morning I went back to that same supercharger to get another 10% into the battery, or, more specifically, use the supercharger to warm up the battery while I car-plan my next supercharger stops in real time to my destination, which I had settled upon previously in the time I spent in ABRP.
 
Hi all,

I just booked with Hertz Rental in Worcester, MA a Model 3 for late June into early July.
I am traveling from Worcester MA out to Orange CA and back. I did it 4 times in the early 2000s when I worked for Toyota Motor Sales USA in Torrance, CA.
I once drove Memphis TN to Los Angeles in 2 days. The good old days. So, yeah, I won't be doing much sight seeing out and back.
I realize this poster hasn't logged in since shortly after they made their two posts on Tuesday, but in case they are lurking or do come back... The first thing I'd recommend is looking at what this trip looks like in a better route planner to see if it is acceptable to your or not. I think you may be surprised by the results. It certainly is a different style of driving than your previous long road trip experiences in an ICE vehicle. Driving across the country in a rented standard range model 3 wouldn't be high on my potential list of transportation methods between those two places.

But I am gleaning fast, that maybe I should supercharge on Tesla (only?) superchargers during the days, knocking the miles down, Should I not bother with competitor super-charger stations on the road? Will I have all kinds of problems there?
Yes like Rich said this trip would be predominantly if not solely done on Tesla's supercharging network. Yes you would have major problems on competitor networks, you wouldn't be able to charge at most if not all of them. Other fast charging networks that you have heard of like Electrify America in your other post use a different plug type that your rental car will not have the required adapter for.
and then what wall-charge at night at accommodating hotels with the supplied adaptor?
A couple of things here. First if you are intending on doing this, make sure the adapter is in the car before your leave the Hertz location. In the three Tesla's I've rented one of them didn't have the J-1772. And as an owner at this point if I plan on doing or potentially doing any J-1772 charging, I'm bringing mine with me. Then beyond that I'm with @danpass and this is a personal preference, but if a hotel had charging great, but I wouldn't necessarily plan a trip out seeking it. There are too many things that could go wrong there be it: A) not functioning B) already in use by someone else C) blocked by a regular vehicle, etc.
The Hertz fine print says that authentic Tesla Superchargers bill back to them.
Yeah you aren't getting around that.
But back to charging, what can I expect average range highway driving off a 80-90% charge?
I think @RichAZ/CapeCod 's numbers above are probably in the ballpark, maybe slightly optimistic. With that said though, like I said above. You should probably look at this trip in a better route planner to see if it is something you really actually want to do or not. The only times you should really be driving off 80 to 90% of the battery would be the first segment of the day.

Other than that like @danpass noted in their post, the quickest way to drive on a road trip is on the lower 2/3 of the battery. This minimizes the time you spend charging. The optimal segment for a Standard Range Model 3 at interstate speeds per ABRP ends up driving roughly 100 to 130 miles charging for 15 to 20 minutes and repeating the process. Driving 1,000ish miles in a day that is obviously going to add up time wise. You need to decide whether that is acceptable to you or not.

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Then in the morning I went back to that same supercharger to get another 10% into the battery, or, more specifically, use the supercharger to warm up the battery while I car-plan my next supercharger stops in real time to my destination, which I had settled upon previously in the time I spent in ABRP.
You had me until here. If this works for you, by all means keep doing it. Personally though, if I knew I wanted 80% for the next day I wouldn't stop 10% short the night before. That last 10% will be quicker during the charging session because the battery is already warm. There really isn't any benefit to a warm battery in the morning either. Most people are presumably going 150+ miles on the first drive of the day and the car will have ample time to warm the battery to the optimal temperature for the first supercharger enroute. Plus you obviously can hit the road right away too...
 
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