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I've seen various business cases for Robotaxis - but the main competition are human drivers. So, how much can RT make when competing with human drivers ? Let us say the minimum wage is $15 an hour. A lot of Uber/Lyft drivers actually make something like or even less that once all costs are...

I'm trying to guess my waiting list number based on the RN number. I booked on 22nd around 8:30 PM PST. The number is RN11289xxxx. The spreadsheet maintained by the CT owners forum has these details currently. They assume the net reservation is around 2M ... and the reservation range is about...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/tesla-wins-first-us-autopilot-trial-involving-fatal-crash/ar-AA1jap6U "TESLA logo, freshly unveiled at Fremont Factory" by jurvetson is licensed under CC BY 2.0. Admin note: Image added for Blog Feed thumbnail

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/05/ford-raises-price-of-bluecruise-by-as-much-as-400-to-800-per-year-on-mustang-mach-e/ Functionality similar to basic free AP now costs half the FSD subscription cost on Mach-E. “Ford is changing the way it offers BlueCruise to customers,” it wrote in the...

Didn't see this posted ... California jury finds that Tesla's Autopilot did not fail in what appeared to be the first trial related to a crash involving partially automated driving software. LOS ANGELES — A California state court jury on Friday handed Tesla Inc. a sweeping win, finding the...

It is high time roundabouts got their own thread. Here are all the issues I see / used to see - along with what seems to be currently fixed. - Doesn't wait for the vehicle coming from the left. <-- This seems to be fixed in 10.69.25.2. - Stops for vehicles coming from the right. Those vehicles...

I'm starting this thread to analyze incident reports that Tesla files with NHTSA regarding crashes involving cars that might be related to FSD or AP or NOA. Note that Tesla has to report any incidence where the crash happens even if AP/FSD/NOA was engaged within 30 seconds prior to the crash...

Here is an interesting series of tests conducted by a Chinese channel comparing ADAS capabilities of various brands in a controlled environment. Reported by Rob of TeslaDaily.

California passed a new law banning Tesla from calling its software Full Self-Driving (FSD). Although Tesla has never claimed that FSD was fully autonomous, the electric–maker is developing the technology for fully autonomous vehicles. Until its vehicles are fully autonomous, drivers must be...

Yes, that's right. 10.2 was released on 11-Oct-2021, so here is the 1st anniversary poll of FSD Beta. Note : Public Poll

Thread to track and discuss the upcoming 10.12 release.

Note : Public poll. Consider how the two releases performed on your routes. Which release did you like better ? Result from the last poll below.

Here is the compilation of FSD Beta releases, starting with 10. All this information comes from Teslafi. Employee only dates are ignored. Release : Release number. Releases that most of the testers got are in bold and I'm calling them "major releases". Build : Software build number. Date ...

Thread in anticipation of FSD Beta 10.12. Started with Elon tweeting 10.12 would be here on Tuesday, 8th March. Then, moved to weekend.

Looks like they are starting to roll out to non-employees, starting with the “button” …

Here is a poll to crowdsource Highway Phantom Braking experience stats. This is for Vision only - so you should either have no-radar Tesla or you are on FSD Beta. By frequent, I mean, it is so much that it actually prevents you from using AP on highways or you take precautions when using it...

Note : Public poll. Consider how the two releases performed on your routes. Which release did you like better ? I've included comparison to both 10.8.x and 10.9, since we have a lot of people coming from both releases. Result from the last poll below.

Just saw this, trip tracker on Reddit. I’ll start using it. Would be useful to track the trip miles and disengagement rate. The current stats here. Disengagements at 1 in 10 miles.

How many miles, on average, do you drive daily on FSD Beta ? Include only city driving on FSD Beta, not highway driving.

This thread is to track the progress of Consumer AVs - from ADAS to full self-driving. I'll keep this info updated. Let me know if you have any updates & corrections.

What is your estimated disengagement rate with FSD Beta ? Include disengagements because of safety concerns as well as uncomfortable driving. But, do not include interventions like pressing the accelerator or changing speed limit.

Note : Public poll. Consider how the two releases performed on your routes. Which release did you like better ? Result from the last poll below.

Elon Musk said in a recent interview with Lex Fridman that release 11, which would have significant fundamental changes to FSD Beta is in "alpha" stage now. When do you think Tesla will release FSD Beta v11.x to most of the current testers ? See this thread for details on 11...

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN. From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included. - Object permanence both...

I've not listened to it yet ... ps :

Here is a fun poll. When do you think Waymo will offer non-NDA robotaxi service to vast majority of the geography of top 50 Metropolitan areas of US ? Here is the list of metropolitan areas in US by 2020 population as defined by census...

Note : Public poll. Consider how the two releases performed on your routes. Which release did you like better ? I've added comparison to both 10.6.1 and 10.5 in this poll, since a significant % of people are coming from 10.5. Result from the last poll below. Low participation because of...

Note : Public poll. Consider how the two releases performed on your routes. Which release did you like better ? This was the result of the last poll.

Note : Public poll. Consider how the two releases performed on your routes. Which release did you like better ? This was the result of the last poll. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/poll-which-is-better-10-4-vs-10-3-1.246001/

Note : Public poll. Consider how the two releases performed on your routes. Which release did you like better ? This was the result of the last poll.

TL;DR : Should we apply RainX or other hydrophobic coatings to handle poor weather ? I've relied on AP to help me drive at night in rain. It never gave me any "poor weather" warnings and always seemed to "see" better than me. I do wear glasses and thus get blinded by oncoming vehicles at...

TL;DR : Let us use this thread to talk about map changes that could potentially make FSD Beta behave better Thanks to the post below by @MP3Mike I discovered an interesting little fact. Tesla probably does use TomTom maps rather than Google or OpenStreet for city FSD Beta driving. I've two...

If you have tried both 10.2 and now 10.3.1, for your set of scenarios, how would you compare 10.3.1 to your experience with 10.2 ? ps : Wrong thread title. Should read "How is 10.3.1 compared to 10.2 ?".

Hello Beta testers, we can track all the issues we see in this master list of FSD Beta issues. Feel free to add / update the spreadsheet. I'll request mods to turn into into a wiki to help us keep it updated...

Moving this discussion into a new thread. Here is the data from Cruise. L1 being severe and L4 being small dings etc. So, about 10k miles per "crash" or "error" in FSD terms. Thats about 1 per year of driving - and seems about right. I've to hunt for the original source document - but these...

We have a few concern trolls with their anti-Musk, anti-Tesla FUD repeatedly posting the same messages in every thread, over and over.

I don't know how many of you follow SoylentBrown on twitter - but he had an interesting tweet the other day. Essentially it says, the car seems to learn the route it is driven on and drives better on AP after some time. From what is known generally about NN and what Tesla has told us, this seems...

Not talking about extinctions - but mass population reductions. This has happened because of wars, previously too.

I suggest we have a consolidated sub-forum for AP/FSD or even all software (including AP/FSD) across S/X/3. Currently there is no one place to discuss these - esp AP/FSD. Given how important it is to Tesla as a company going forward, it would be useful to have such a sub-forum. Currently there...

Starting a new thread on this. Musk is a drama queen. Don't go purely by what he says. Just as he can be very optimistic and exaggerate (robotaxi next year !), he can swing the other way too. He is basically saying just because they got some money doesn't mean they don't need to cut costs...

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Not good, if true. Menial Tasks, Slurs and Swastikas: Many Black Workers at Tesla Say They Faced Racism

Electric vehicle tax credit preserved in Senate’s revised tax bill, says senator “The South Dakota Republican said the measure also preserves existing clean energy tax incentives such as for electricity production from wind. It preserves a tax credit for electric cars as well.“ As usual, all...

Nissan IDS Concept an autonomous-driving Transformer

For last few years we zero sales tax for all BEVs in WA. Sales tax here is almost 10% (since we don't have income tax). The new incentive in WA is to have a hard cut-off of $35k. I wonder what it means for Model 3. Will Tesla really sell a $34,995 and let us add some options as...

Chevrolet Bolt: 55 Pre-Production Cars Made And Exceeding 200 Miles Range Also, Looks like they are on track for late 2016 production of Bolt.

Battery cost dropping below $200 per kWh soon, says Teslas Elon Musk Ofcourse, we would need to figure out what this means for battery level cost & what that means for BlueStar. GS Yuasa's president Makota Yoda seems to be very optimistic as well.

Here is my updated EV/PHEV specs/dimensions chart. I've used the picture in the Model X Tesla page to get relative size of X using known height of S.

Ofcourse, the big news out of the GigaOm interview with Musk is the Model X reveal. But here is something interesting. I've been thinking for sometime that the battery price will halve every 5 years. We had some discussions about it in a different thread. 12 tech leaders Tech News and...

Since there were some questions about the need for QC with a 160 miler base Model S, I thought I'd put together a few scenarios. Here are the 4 very well travelled routes from Seattle. First some background information. I've had my Leaf now for nearly 10 months and we have all been patiently...