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This seems to be my experience so far, much better in town but country roads it wouldn't be usable without giving it input with the accelerator fairly regularly. I also noticed it doesn't seem to honor the set speed for me, I had it on auto speed but it would only do 38 on a 55mph road. I'm...

As a side note, I think it uses a lot of map data and it seems intersections that I'm guessing aren't mapped are the ones it has issues with. I tested this with 3 roads which cross the same RR tracks, the car won't stop for any of them, I reported 1 of the 3, the car now stops at that one but...

I have emailed him a couple times, we are actually pretty near to each other. I asked him about coming here and doing a drive, told him I'd buy lunch or something and that I wanted to see how his magic car did around here but he didn't respond to that one. I used to follow his videos and watch...

A company or person can say something is worth whatever they want but at the end of the day anything is only worth what people will pay for it. I would be curious to know what the take rates were at different prices. Once you already have the early adopters who love tech and are willing to pay...

I agree with JB, I would add maybe if you do want to play with it some try using it in areas where there isn't much traffic. I find there is far less pressure when no other cars are present at a 4 way stop or whatever. I find it does better than I expected at difficult stuff and does a lot...

I just took back a loaner I had while my car was in service and the loaner had FSD on it. I was really glad to have FSD on the loaner to be able to see if it was just my car that was performing so badly in my area or if it's just the state of FSD around here because I thought my car might have...

I was at home, have driving the car multiple times today, had no warnings from the vehicle although I did notice when I had unplugged a couple drives earlier my home charger green light wasn't moving like it normally would when charging but the battery had gained charge. When I went to drive...

I don't think in my case it's a situation where it's a bug, I think the stops simply aren't mapped and the cameras/computer/car is unable to see and react to a stop sign in time if you are travelling at speed. I think this is why it happens to people most often on country type roads where the...

I understand it's beta but I think we should have things like stopping at stop signs ironed out by now. I am fine with regressions when they are switching to a new way of doing things like with this last version the lane selection is much worse in my area than it has been in a long time but I...

The thing about being "semi-fair to Tesla" the whole point of the vision system is that it shouldn't matter if the stop is new, that's exactly how vision is supposed to be superior to map data in that it can see the new stop sign and stop for it without the map being updated. This is again why...

I experience this same thing at 4 way stops as well as RR crossings. These are mostly country roads as well which makes me think the map data doesn't show a stop and the car & cameras are unable to see and react in time to the stop sign. At the RR crossing I have been able to test this best...

Got 10.11 today.

I have made several changes in OSM to speed limit data and that saw no change on the roads I have been on since the new map data. But I did not make any changes to actual road layouts. (speed changes I made were long ago so they would have made it into the nav update)

Sadly I find that pretty much everything "auto" on my car is better turned off. These cars can do lots of things, just almost none of them well.

I feel like the exact opposite is true, I think Tesla uses map data too much as it is. The majority of roads around me have incorrect speed data, there are many stop signs that aren't mapped, the routing data sucks (not sure if that's fully on the maps or not but seems to be a map issue, things...

I just do the button, I have sent emails in the past but there are so many issues that I would need a passenger just to keep notes of all the problems and I haven't noticed any fixes happen either way. If I saw any progress on my reported issues I would make more effort like maybe putting a...

True, when I did some speed limit updates it took several weeks for them to be changed on the maps in Tom Toms system (sadly as I stated above I don't think those changes made it in time for the nav update if they would require a nav update and if Tom Tom is what they are using for that). When...

I wonder if the reason they don't want to make this public information is so many people out there that *edit: hates* Tesla for whatever different reasons people might go on there and mess with data to try to cause issues? Letting the public be able to report and fix issues works very well to...

I made changes to several speed limits on Tom Tom but I submitted the changes in week 44 and it took them several weeks to make the changes so I am going to assume they wouldn't take effect in this update anyway. I really wish there was a better way to do this. I am trying to test the Tom Tom...

I see both sides and understand the issue with the rolling stops from a regulators point of view but then there is also what is to stop them from saying the cars can no longer exceed the speed limit. The same argument would apply that lots of people do it, but it is still breaking the law...

Well, it sounds to me like you are noticing the cold weather thing they did with the windows but this isn't new so I am not sure. In case you weren't aware, in sub freezing temps the car will keep the windows down just enough to clear the trim (window is still against the seal). The car will...

I noticed something a few days ago, it seems the way they tried to smooth this out is not changing the max speed all at once. If you are travelling at 55 and spin the scroll down a few times so it would be say 40. Then soon after push the scroll up a click, you will see it wont goto 41, it...

Something I find interesting is there is a route I take to get to a store and the entire way there my car does it with no real interventions other than maybe once tapping the acceleration for convenience, then every time on the way home, same route just in reverse its terrible. Last time on the...

I've had this happen twice to me with 10.8.1 except there was no oncoming traffic. The one time I was surprised at the force it applied while doing it, I had my left hand on the bottom left part of the wheel with my elbow on the armrest and it actually bent my wrist and pulled my arm away from...

A new behavior I noticed in 10.8 as I saw someone else mention is it wanting to get into the center divider lane for a upcoming left turn a long way before the intersection. In previous builds it would do this at one intersection then once it was in the divider lane it would swerve back into...

I had previously reported on an older version of beta that on icy roads (turning from a stop at intersections) it would accelerate normally and put the car into a slide without engaging any traction control or seem to notice it was in a slide (let it do this for testing with full expectation it...

Last night 3 different times my car abruptly moved left while driving on a straight road. I wouldn't call it a swerve but it moved left suddenly as if to avoid something like a car on the side of the road but there was nothing there. The first time I immediately took over by tensing my arm...

It looks like the zoom button on the map are gone? Am I just missing a new placement or do we just have to do the pinch to zoom now?

If something bad happens on a drive just do a double scroll reboot, the computer will lose the drive data prior to the reboot. (This must be done before putting it in park) Also keep in mind you will lose the data for those miles from when you started the drive to the reboot. As far as I know...

I've compared beta to an ex girlfriend before and these updates kind of make me think of the same thing. It does the same behavior and I am frustrated about it to the point I don't even get excited for an update because I know it will be more of the same, but also it does some things I really...

Try an unmapped stop sign on a road with 55mph speed limit, won't stop, just alarm and slam the brakes as you pass the stop sign (was a railroad crossing with safety measures in place for the test). Even one that has a flashing red light above the intersection (this one I can't safely test to...

What I noticed with my testing on snow and icy roads was that the car drives pretty much the same as it would on clean dry roads other than it drove a little slower kind of like it would on a dirt road. I was impressed with how well it mostly kept straight even when you couldn't see any road...

What I found out yesterday is that it seems beta will try to drive you into the side of a moving train. I disengaged and came to a stop at a rural rail crossing (because the car seems to not be able to see far enough ahead and will run the stop sign as it's unmapped and if you are doing the...

Good rule, although generally I would have my high beams on but because of that car at the end of their driveway had switched to low beams to go past them.

Because converting it to a gif and lowering the res to make the file size work on here it stretched the image height so it makes it look like there was a bit more distance to the can. But this is the best I could do for now.

I tried putting the video on my post but it wouldn't let me. It's a mp4 file. I mean like I said, even had I of been manually driving I'm sure the result would of been the same, if you saw the video it's like the thing materialized out of thin air, there was no time and I reacted pretty quick...

True, I just don't know what the answer is then, maybe better cameras or different ones? I have posted before that the cameras seem to not be able to see far enough to make a stop at unmapped stop signs which those are reflective (rural roads with a speed limit of 55). I have noticed my front...

I'm really frustrated that I didn't think to hit the video report button, I saved the video clip so I think I will send them that video in an email and maybe they can look back with the time stamp. I mean with the current hardware setup I don't think there was anything else the car could of...

Last night I was driving with beta engaged and hit a garbage can that was laying in the road. This isn't beta's fault directly as I couldn't see it either until the last second. I was travelling down the rural road, it was very dark, a car was sitting at the end of their driveway waiting to...

I am actually considering selling my Tesla because service is so bad. I love the car, although most of the cool tech only half works but service has just been terrible. Usually when I take my car in for service I end up having to take it in again for the same issues that never get fixed the...

My experience (at least with .3.1 and .4) has been if the stop sign is not mapped it stops very late and all depends on how fast you are going, at 25 it stops just fine, at 45 it stops pretty hard and late and at 60 it blows through it (this includes stop signs that have flash red lights)...

I have disabled beta then turned it back on (have to be parked to turn back on) but my understanding is the radar stays disabled and its the vision only not beta specifically that limits it to 80mph although I am not 100% sure on the radar staying disabled with beta disabled.

Was a little rough when I went up north recently because the speed limit on the expressway for a good portion is 75 so I was just sitting in the slow lane doing 80 getting passed by everyone. But I guess I always have the option of manually driving so I'll take it for now but I hope as time...

My experience has been that they have been nice, I have gotten a loaner car, but they usually don't fix the issue. Both times I have taken my car in for service it required a 2nd trip or mobile appointment for the same issue. This last time 3 of the 4 issues are still present, so another 6...

I saw something about if you signed out of the app you may not be able to sign back in. So my guess would be if they signed out and tried to sign back in and couldn't sign back in then the phone wouldn't work as key? I don't feel bad for those people, if you don't carry a key card for backup...

Yea beta right now kinda reminds me of a crazy ex girlfriend that I kept getting back together with. Really want it to work out, and it does some things that I like so well but I just keep ending up angry and frustrated, and wondering if today is the day it's going to try to kill me. lol

10.4 is horrible for me. Yesterday I got so pissed off with it I had to stop using it. Decided to start fresh today, have made maybe 10 drives today, only used it on the first 6 drives. It was able to complete 1 4 way stop that it just had to go straight and one right turn (which is did from...

I hope your wife doesn't see this or you will be sleeping on the couch ;)

I haven't had it not slow down at all, mine just slows down stupidly slow. It takes about 10 seconds for it to reduce its speed by about 5mph so when I come into town and the speed drops I end up doing 50 in a 25 if I don't press the brake. I have noticed this whether I use the scroll wheel or...

This was my understanding as well, that OSM was used for parking lots (smart summon) and google was used for road mapping and data. So many people say it's this or that but don't actually know, that's why I'm hoping that guy has done something with nodes in OSM and actually saw that it made a...