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Yeah you are right. I should separate these two thinks. Thanks for showing me. I just voted.

I have the proxy statements for a couple old days now and I don’t know what to do. On the one hand I feel it is not fair to come back on what has been agreed upon. On the other hand I feel that Elon doesn’t care about us - the Twitter fiasco still stings. Also the ever increasing outlandish...

Why not? Remember, it is not just solely Elon who build the company. The company was build by all the people who work there. If your CEO treats the people who help you build the company it says something about you and how you view the company. As for the fact that Tesla and SpaceX are the most...

Ridiculous, you are not talking about shares you can sell and buy back a couple of days later. We are talking about people who have commitments based on continuous employment and people who have emotions. This is not how you treat them

Wow, only 20? https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/7/24151077/tesla-autopilot-nhtsa-recall-crash-data-request

It does do worse in the beginning. For instance; bringing my daughter to school - when going into the grounds the car needs to turn right followed by an immediate left turn. The first couple of days it could not do it. Now it nails it every time. Picking my daughter up from school; there is a...

Chuck always test it right after installing a new version. My experience is that it takes a couple of days for a new version to “settle in”. I find that FSD preforms much better after a couple of days of using it. (I don’t Know why or how, but it is just my observation)

Without ASML there would be no Nvidia, there would be no FSD, there would be no AI.

Chuck always makes these videos right after he installed them. My experience is that it takes a couple of days or weeks for a new version to “settle in”. In the beginning FSD it always performs way worse than after a couple of days.

Hopefully, I made a huge contribution in the training data today. I had to make a very hard brake while on FSD supervised. My car wanted to accelerate into the roundabout right when a car on the roundabout was approaching. I prevented a 100% crash if had let FSD do its thing. I don’t blame...

Heard a suggestion yesterday that Tesla should stop offering FSD as a purchase option and go for a subscription offering only. I thought it was an interesting idea.

Ok, after two, weeks, I stand corrected! FSD does much better than when I first installed it. I don’t know what it is but is seems to learn on the fly. it now sometimes uses indicators when approaching a roundabout! It is a bit inconsistent though. Sometimes it drives like a grandma and...

Had to look that one up. This thread is also great for expanding your vocabulary

Well, well. Look at the investors darling NVDA…

There goes the golden goose…

You only drive the wrong way around

I have read from people in Canada having a similar experience. Perhaps it is a regional thing

After been reading and watching enviously for a couple of weeks about the hype of V12 I finally installed V12.3.4 yesterday coming from V11. Believing in the hype I was ready to invest more in TSLA, but having experienced the new version I will hold off for the moment. Compared to V11 I find...

Had my second drive on V12.3.4 coming from V11. I am not that impressed. Yes, it is better than V11 but marginally so. It still has some slight phantom braking, I still have to use the accelerator to help it move. It still does some odd lane choises and it doesn’t use indicators entering and...

V11

Just drove for the first time on V12 (12.3.4) it did ok. - wipers are finally working - it accelerates nicely - it drives more confident - no more strange stop's in the middle of the road stops so far - no more phantom braking? - Still has a hard time with roundabouts. Is it so hard turning...

Yes, you can see the negativity in this and trust me, I often do as well. Back then, Elon did not realize how hard it would be. I don’t think you can blame him for that. You must applaud his tenacity and perseverance. How easy would it have been to just throw in the towel, give everyone a...

So, how much can I earn with my car again if I put it in the fleet of Robotaxis?

No, there is no explanation. We upgraded to HW3 a long time ago and also have the MCU2 installed for we paid also extra. Basically the same setup as the earlier refreshed Model S and X. He doesn’t give any information on what needs to be validated. He also said he would post information slides...

I am a sucker who bought into the FSD story from day one. Now I see others who haven’t paid a dime for FSD supervised get it before me on much cheaper cars. Tesla is just forgetting about, us who supported them when the times were rough. Still no FSD supervised for the legacy Model S and...

Non of the older Model S and X in US or Canada got it. Compared to the other cars there are nowadays too few of us so we are wayyy back in line, despite the fact that we are supporters of FSD since the beginning. In my case since 2017.

I paid for FSD years ago. Good money which could have been used to buy TSLA stock and would have made some nice gains. Yet, I believed in the mission only to see people who haven’t paid a dime for FSD, who also drive nuch cheaper cars than ours, get to enjoy FSD supervised way ahead of us. This...

That’s right. I am one of them.

I see in Teslafi they there are 0 installs for 12.3.2.1 for Model X and S with HW3. So I assume that this install is only for cars without ultra sensors. I wonder when Telsa will disable the sensors and will go with vision only on these cars as well.

I like this guy.

Not true. I have had FSD for years and I am 2024 branch already. I am in Canada though so everyone here is stil on FSD 11.x

I like Tesla Elon I like SpaceX elon I like Neuralink Elon Heck, I even like hyperloop Elon I just deleted X — my goodness what a cesspool that has become since Elon took over.

I remember watching these kind of videos when the Model S came out. Apparently there are still a lot of people out there who have no clue.

Or when indeed another OEM starts to take the license

What is this referring too?

The more I look at X the more I am turned off. I don’t like it anymore since Elon took over. Too much extremism, hate and violence. I used to be on Twitter quite a lot in the old days. Great site to get the latest news but since Elon turned it into X as a platform for free speech and...

I see that 12.3 is on 2023.44.30.25. I am on 2024.2.7. Does it mean that I have to wait until 12.3 catches up to the 2024 branche?

All this talk about the driver still bring responsible got me thinking. There are about 30,000 traffic fatalities in the US per year. Say that every car has FSD and and 99% of these fatalities will be prevented. So that 30,000 will go down all the way to 300 per year. That is a great success...

in December 2022 I had to sell in the $130’s. Stock price is edging closer for me to buy back at these prices….

Data regarding collisions with EV’s and why repair bills are higher. Some tidbits from the report: - EV’s tend to be heavier than ICE counterparts resulting in more frequent airbag deployment - EV’s tend to use lighter materials which need to be replaced more often rather than repaired...

So, why did these lawyers sue Tesla and Elon again? And what are the lawyers now asking? Talk about the Kettle and the Pot. A good judge would kick these lawyers with their demands right out of the courtroom.

That was my first reaction. Asking 10% of what they saved for the litigant. Which is the quy with 9 or 10 shares. So how much would that be 2 or 3 cents? It is still difficult to comprehend.

Yes, I do. I am just very unfamiliar with these kind of litigative actions. Must be an American thing. This won’t happen in other parts of the world.

Yes and yes. And I still don’t understand. A guy hires a lawyer and agrees to pay him if he wins. He wins so he has to pay him. What has this got to do with Tesla or the Tesla shareholders? Tesla was never part of the contract between the lawyer and the guy who hired them - just the subject of...

I don’t understand. What has this got to do with us? We and Tesla never hired them. They have a deal with the guy who hired them so he has to buy these shares on the open market and give the to his lawyers.

Never had an issue, but then again I have lifetime free supercharging

That is even a non issue. Tesla doesn’t know my credit card number so they cannot charge me anything.

Just a small OT. Just received a message that my car is finally ready tomorrow after two months at the body shop after a minor crash. Really looking forward driving my own car again. Back in December I was hoping that I would have FSD 12 by the time my car is ready. That hasn’t happened -...

Do we all still fall for this?

I don't know if this a good thing. The energy of the accident is not absorbed by deforming the body of the cybertruck, but the energy needs to go somewhere. I had a similar accident 14 years ago. Rear-ended and my car was hardly deformed either. The consequence was that my car was jolted...