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Why didn't you use the 125 kW ChargePoint fast chargers?

1. Tesla made NACS free. Tesla didn't make the Supercharger free. 2. In Europe, Tesla allows non-Tesla to use some Superchargers despite the fact that all the Superchargers have compatible connectors.

1. Tesla made NACS free. Tesla didn't make the Supercharger free. 2. In Europe, Tesla allows non-Tesla to use some Superchargers despite the fact that all the Superchargers have compatible connectors.

From the horse's (Elon's) mouth: “We’ve always said that this is not intended to be a walled garden, and we’re happy to support other automakers and let them use our Supercharger stations. They would just need to pay, you know, share the costs proportionate to their vehicle usage, and they...

Nope. Ford paid Tesla to gain access to the Supercharger. From the horse's (Elon's) mouth: “We’ve always said that this is not intended to be a walled garden, and we’re happy to support other automakers and let them use our Supercharger stations. They would just need to pay, you know, share...

Have you tried the 125 kW ChargePoint fast chargers there?

From the horse's (Elon's) mouth: “We’ve always said that this is not intended to be a walled garden, and we’re happy to support other automakers and let them use our Supercharger stations. They would just need to pay, you know, share the costs proportionate to their vehicle usage, and they...

Notice what that the announcement said: Ford EV drivers gaining access to the Supercharger network. Notice what the announcement does not say: the Supercharger network is available for any EV driver to charge anywhere.

Tesla did not. I read the so called "specification" and no where does it say how the vehicle would authenticate with the Supercharger. That is absolutely relevant. There is an old saying: There ain't no such thing as a free lunch ...but then other automakers (other than Ford) wouldn't pay...

You miss the point. Tesla has long said that other automakers can use the Supercharger so as long as they paid Tesla for the access. Ford became the first automaker to pay Tesla for access. That means zilch for anyone not driving a Ford EV.

I am not sure what is "old" about CCS. CCS will continue to be used by automakers who don't want to pay Tesla to use the Supercharger.

Not quite. NEVI requires CCS. Also, not every automaker is willing to pay Tesla to gain access to the Supercharger.

It depends on how much Tesla is charging automakers to access the Supercharger.

I don't think you understand. Just putting an "NACS" port on your vehicle doesn't mean you have access to the Supercharger. Ford most certainly paid to have access to the Supercharger.

I wonder how many billions Ford paid to have access to the Supercharger network.

No

All automakers, except Tesla, use CCS to fast charge their EVs. Tesla also uses CCS in Europe and parts of Asia.

Please provide a link to your product and a explanation on why someone should by your product instead of the OEM product.

Void warranty ≠ ban from Supercharger

I guess we are going to have to wait until individual states pass their own right-to-repair laws or a national one gets passed. It shouldn't be long now.

Except...

Third-party mechanics should be able to run safety tests and turn Supercharger access back on. Tesla is most certainly violating the right-to-repair law.

Tesla prevents third-parties from doing safety checks that Tesla requires to regain access to Supercharger.

This is most certainly a violation of right-to-repair law.

If the vehicle is leaking gas, it is a hazard to everyone in the immediate area. Just having a salvaged title does not mean that vehicle is a hazard to everyone in the immediate area.

There are now J-1772 adapters with bypass circuit that allow non-Tesla EVs to charge even if the Wall Charger is set to restricted mode.

I very must doubt that "the masses" are going to be driving semi-trailer trucks, let alone Tesla Semi

Tesla should install lights to illuminate the charging spots at the Supercharger

Every state in the country got money from the Volkswagen settlement. From that money, 15% can be used to install chargers. In large and urban states, the bidding processes are very competitive with many applicants applying. In small and rural states, the bidding processes are very...

NeoCharge Smart Splitter https://getneocharge.com/

My point is that, as Tesla has already proven, thickness and length of the cable has fundamentally nothing to do with CCS. Rather, the are the result of choices made by the chargepoint operators.

At least, for North America, cable size has nothing to do with CCS. If CCS requires thicker cables, Tesla would have had to retrofit Superchargers with separate CCS cables for CCS compatibility as opposed to using the Magic Dock.

Yes. 100 kW and 320 kW FLO claims that its has >98% uptime

Then there is Vermont. FLO has coverage in Vermont.

Time to drive across Canada. Or if you don't have a passport, Vermont. (FLO is there too). FLO chargers are built like tanks. It has two buttons (START and STOP) and a calculator screen for a display.

If you ever used FLO in Canada, you know that that isn't true. FLO charging network has Supercharger-like reliability.

If there were public 150 kW+ chargers every 50 miles along the interstate and busy state highway, would Tesla build the Supercharger? Hell no! Tesla has to build the Supercharger because there was no public infrastructure at the time. That doesn't mean that every other automaker should copy...

If there were public 150 kW chargers every 50 miles along the interstate and busy state highway, would Tesla build the Supercharger? Hell no! Tesla has to build the Supercharger because there was no public infrastructure at the time. That doesn't mean that every other automaker should copy...

No. The other automakers didn't have access to the Supercharger so they have to use what they have access to. If public chargers were 50 kW, then that is what they have to use. If public chargers use CCS, then that is what they have to use.

You assume wrong. Automakers are traditionally in the business of making automobiles, not running refueling infrastructure. You don't see General Motors gas station, Ford gas station, or Chrysler gas station. Gas stations are run by separate entities. Automakers saw charging stations the...

It was already established that the Tesla connector came out before CCS. I am not disputing that.

Which part is "untrue"?

Until recently, Tesla was a walled garden. Since non-Tesla vehicles can't use Superchargers, they have to use public CCS chargers. As a result, we are now stuck with CCS.

It's too late now because all the other automakers have decided to use CCS. We are stuck with CCS because Tesla didn't allow other automakers to use the Tesla connector without miles of string attached. What Tesla needs to do is invent the time machine.

PlugShare has a feature to check for Hotel with chargers https://www.plugshare.com/map/hotels I would still contact the hotel to make sure that the information is accurate and the chargers are in working condition.

Name-calling is what little kids do in elementary school.

The ship has sailed. Tesla should have done it a long time ago.

No, but CCS sends the vehicle's MAC address over the protocol. That's how CCS charging network operates Autocharge.

I am sure there is nothing that makes new members feel more welcome than you calling them "shills".

If you have to set up a strawman, your argument probably isn't very good.