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    Is it possible to find a preowned Model S with lifetime free connectivity?

    Interesting- so it IS a possibility! Do you think the PC is more valuable that FUSC? I feel like over many years, the PC would cost Tesla a lot more than periodic supercharging.
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    Is it possible to find a preowned Model S with lifetime free connectivity?

    I've seen several Model S listings that adverse "Free Premium Connectivity" but my understanding was that PC was a monthly or annual subscription? It is possible that like the Free Unlimited Supercharging, some older models have FPC?
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    I'm glad you mentioned depreciation. All the dealerships I've gone to have insisted the used car market is dry and thats why they are asking 38k for a 2016 model S with warped rotors and seat damage. "Someone will pay it". what do you think has caused the recent deprecation? I think the...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    Gosh, these all sound amazing. Are they unicorns? I have been having a hard time finding one in the private market. Do you think there will be more selection at the end of the year? I know Tesla doesn't do the whole change the whole car every year thing- they just do mods when they see fit. But...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    I also love the silver, and youre right - so hard to find! Is there some sort of loophole with transferring the supercharging, I thought I read somewhere that if its between private owners, Tesla doesn't intervene? Anyone know of any other private sale websites other than find my EV and used...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    This is EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Would you be able to share what date range I'm looking for e.g May 2017 - Oct 2017 etc. I've been on Find my Ev and used tesla only daily looking for one.
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    "I doubt even Tesla salespeople know as much as some of the people on this forum who have been driving the cars for years." I completely agree. I've already learned so much and if not for the members on the forum, I wouldn't have even gone a test drive. I would have solely based my decision to...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    "Interesting to see this comment. I have a mid 2017 75D that I am thinking of selling or trading in. I'm the original owner. 70K miles. Always garaged and charged at home. Unlimited supercharging. FSD. Clean, etc. Dealers I have talked to tell me it's trash. Tesla through their trade-in offer...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    " Sorry, but unless you have access to the vehicle via the Tesla on-line owners account, I do not know of any reliable way to see the option codes and verify via the in-car display. I think the moral of the story is do not expect free supercharging to transfer unless you are buying directly...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    Oh one other thing, when I discussed a preowned Model S with them, they refused to discuss any third party warranty products for batteries. Did I violate an unknown taboo?
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    " Other thoughts I had reading through and am about 3 months in to my 2015 85D ownership: -You and your Mom should definitely try one out for a test drive and confirm you think you'll like it. It's definitely a different way of thinking about things in a lot of ways. I like mine mostly. Which is...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    "This quarter meaning July, august, sept. I suspect there will be more cars for sale now but I haven’t tracked it. I doubt you’d get free unlimited supercharging if buying from Tesla. Only from private party. (Sometimes even buying from a dealer can end up you losing free supercharging since it...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    "At your price point, have you considered something other than a model S? I've owned the Model S and just traded in our Model Y 2020 for a Model 3 2018. I currently have a MX. As I mention before, I miss the S but the Model 3 is really scratching that itch. Sure it's smaller in every way but...
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    2016 / 2017 Model S option values

    Thank you, these are great tips! Generally speaking, I feel like the asking price for the car is fair, but some of the "dealer fees" are unreasonable. $1,200 for "reconditioning fees?" $550 for " document fees?" I'm hoping I can get an sales advisor that will work with me on those, because these...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    Yes, thank you for this. That is where my confusion came in. I learned about FUSC by reading this forum and I guess I'm just at a loss of how to truly confirm before purchase.
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    Forgive my ignorance, but is SC01 a code that I can somehow verify with the car's system? I haven't been able to get any info by calling Tesla and asking with the VIN.
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    Thank you for this, it has really shed a light on the current market. I keep seeing two owner cars that are listed "sold at auction" on the carfax- which I initially took to mean it was repossessed. I see know it could have been a trade in with Tesla.
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    It has been incredibly difficult to confirm anything with Tesla. I've found two cars that seem to have what I'm looking for, but when I've called Tesla with the Vin, they refused to confirm what autopilot software the car had and if it came with unlimited super charging.
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    ah, so maybe waiting until January will be a better choice? It's hard to be patient because I have a preapproaval for an auto loan but maybe there will be more selection then?
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    So it sounds like the best approach is to find a late 2016 that has the cameras and then upgrade the AP2.5 after purchase? I'd like to keep my monthly car note as low as possible - and it sounds like just making sure the hardware is present and upgrading later is the best choice?
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    Forgive me all, I'm having some challenges responding and quoting each post so I'll just message here to prevent blowing up everyone's inbox. It sounds like I'm looking for a late 2016 90 or 100 then - thanks for helping me narrow all that down! After reading here, would it be worth it to look...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    "If you are completely unfamiliar with a Tesla Model S, you may want to try renting one on Turo and see if it works for you and your mom." I've taken a few test drives in a 2022 and if it was within my price range, I'd absolutely purchase it. 2016 seems to be a viable option in my budget. Is...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    Thank you- your feedback and these links are all really informative!
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    Thank you all so much! So much great info and some really great thought provoking points. Thanks for that resource. I'll add it to the list of search sites. Do you think it matters what time of year I purchase? Will there be more variety closer to the end of the year when people are upgrading...
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    Model S Technical / Mechanical Issues

    Ah, my mistake. I'm new to the forum and Tesla in general. I'm here researching and learning about issues so that I'm prepared for my purchase. Thanks for understanding and explaining.
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    Going to inspect from used inventory

    This is one of the reasons I haven't looked at the Tesla site for the used Model S I'm in the market for. I've heard that its very much a "what you see if what you get " and I feel like its more nuanced, especially with the older models.
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    Model S Technical / Mechanical Issues

    Is there anyway to manual pull the handle out if it doesn't auto display? I'm shopping for a 2016 or newer model S and this is one of my top concerns.
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    This is very helpful thank you ! So to confirm: If I want sentry mode, the car must be 2016 or newer and have both MCU and HW 2.0, or, this can be added after purchase? Also, how can I know if it has the 8 cameras needed for the FSD? I haven't seen them mentioned in any listings. I'm trying...
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    2016 / 2017 Model S option values

    Can you share some tips on how to successfully negotiate price? I'm very nervous about going to a dealership because I've heard that many used cars are marked up beyond the blue book price right now. I am almost considering waiting for the new year in the hopes that there will be more in the...
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    Looking for an older Model S - Do I understand the differences? What amenities can I skip?

    I'm planning on buying an older Model S hopefully in the near future and while I have done a lot of research, I was hoping y'all could inform me if my understanding of the differences is correct and advise if there are any amenities that I can pass on. I live in metro Atlanta, Georgia and the...