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sure.. maybe the guy is lying about his net worth and he's actually a tesla short spreading these false rumors. but the fact that 12.4 has still not rolled out seems to suggest there are still some serious issues that need to be resolved. I don't have all my net worth tied to tesla stock, but...

Why would the guy fake it? He already mentioned that 70% of his net worth is in tesla stock. He would have every incentive to make 12.4 look as good as possible. This looks legit to me.

But I thought Elon said 12.4 would be a 10x improvement over 12.3? Maybe the guy needs to recalibrate his cameras.

we need one that says "caution, robot driver, makes complete stops and creeps". Somebody figure a better way to word it. :). Then cars behind me will stop honking at me.

yes, tesla needs to give this out to every tesla owner. :)

Tesla needs to provide some type of external indicator on the outside of the car to let others know that the car is being driven autonomously. Then drivers may be more forgiving of some of the odd behaviors that the car is doing like making a complete stop at stop signs, creeping, etc. Im...

maybe elon should take that massive pay package and give some of those stock options to the people that actually do the work. Then they will have more incentive to get it out faster.

i'm wondering how much of the training data is from real traffic and how much is from using a simulator? Can't tesla model this behavior by injecting data from a simulator?

Speaking of lane selection, as people have noticed and commented here, fsd v12.3.6 behaves differently based on its surroundings for the same route. There is an intersection in my area where v12.3.6 will go straight in the straight lane when there are no cars in front of me. If there are cars...

I noticed that black tesla got updated to 2024.14.x. Isn't he one of the original testers?

here's the screenshot from my car

I think it depends. If the lane that you are merging "from" is moving at a similar speed to the lane that you are merging "into", the merging algorithm is pretty good. The issue that i see is when the lane that you are merging "from" is moving at a much faster speed than the lane you are...

I have the latest map data NA-2024.8-14924, but it didn't fix any of the incorrect lane information in my neighborhood. Here's hoping that 12.4 adds the ability for fsd to read (improve?) the lane markings in real time.

I can't wait for the day when the highway stack goes to v12. The v11 highway stack is usually pretty good, but it does a terrible job of merging into a lane w bumper to bumper traffic. It will slow down, speed up, turn on its blinkers, turn off its blinkers, and repeat a combination of these...

Elon posted this a month back. Surprised its still there in 12.4. Tesla engineers had at least a month to fix this specific issue. Of course i'm not sure how easy it is to fix these AI bugs? Does it require a complete re-training of the data? With regular software, the engineers can just add...

They need to fix the fsd shimmy before they can release 12.4.x to the public, or Elon will have egg on his face.

Was fsd using the highway stack or the city stack for you? I mentioned in a previous post that I took a trip to santa cruz over hwy 17 which is notorious for its dangerous and windy roads and it did great, but it was using the city stack which I found odd considering its a highway. One thing...

The biggest issue for me is still incorrect map data. I still run into situations where it tries to go straight in a left turning lane and vice versa. This is my number 1 source of disengagements. There must be a way for the AI to read the lane markings and override the incorrect map data...

If you watch the 12.4 video, you can see in certain situations there was a nag on the screen, and it went away without the driver touching the wheel. So something has changed.

I watched the entire thing and it doesn't seem that much different than 12.3.6. It's still doing the fsd shimmy at 11:40 and 25:10 that Elon said would be fixed in 12.4. It's stil fairly hesitant at stops as well. Autopark seems faster. My plan was to buy more tesla stock if 12.4 was a big...

I'm sad that it's not on the 2024.14 branch, which my mylr is running. By the time 12.4 is pushed to 2024.14, 12.5 would be out soon. Maybe I should skip 12.4 altogether and wait for 12.5 instead.

Back in the 90s my gf, now wife, used to live in Aptos and I lived in San Jose. I would take hwy 17 to visit her every weekend. Never got used to the drive and it was always a stressful experience. Now it's a piece of cake w fsd.

Took a trip w my 24 mylr from my home in the east bay to Santa Cruz for my wife's bday. Fsd 12.3.6 performed great on hwy 17. For those that don't know, hwy 17 is a very whindy 2 lane (each way) hwy where lots of accidents happen because of how whindy it is. Zero interventions. I found it...

I had something funny happen to me today. I was on the freeway with fsd enabled v12.3.4 and there was a motorcycle passing my car on the right. After the motorcycle had already passed me, the car did the maneuver where it moved slightly to the left to give the motorcycle space. What a...

Is it really that hard to port fsd v12 to the 2024.8 branch?

I would just be happy if they fixed some of the basics issues like staying in the same lane when making a left turn or not going straight if the car is in a left turning lane. These are basic issues that are still present in v12.

Tesla engineers needs to drive up to Roseville from Fremont and film this intersection and feed it to the NN.

Does whole mars catalog have an account on here. :-) Is there a bigger Tesla stan than him?

This was on the freeway and my understanding is that v11 is still rules based and not using any training video?

The problem w fsd v12 is that it still doesn't pass the wife test. It still makes too many basic mistakes. My wife doesn't trust it, she won't enable it when she drives herself and she gets nervous when I'm driving the car w fsd enabled and she's a passenger. When it passes the wife test then...

I like the fact that v12 drives much more natural and humanlike however it's still getting a lot of the basic functionality wrong. Like not staying in the correct lane when making a left. Going straight instead of left in a left only lane. I can understand that it misses some edge cases, but...

I've been pretty bullish on fsd v12 as about 90% of my drives have been disengagement free in my little suburb city in the SF Bay Area. However, yesterday I took a trip to San Francisco itself and I was really looking forward to what FSD could do and I had a bunch of disengagements that it was...

The v11 highway stack isn't that great. I had a scenario where fsd was changing into another lane when another car from the other side was getting into the same lane and if I hadn't disengaged, my car would have hit the other car which was another Tesla. Not sure if the other Tesla was using...

I've been loosely following tesla and EVs since the model s was introduced, yet I didn't purchase my first tesla until august of last year. I didn't feel like paying the early adopter prices and I wanted to wait for all the kinks and bugs to be worked out. Very happy with my model 3 and I...

This is the price u pay for being an early adopter. Tesla is a tech company and tech is inherently deflationary.

I personally find fsd v12 acceleration/deceleration rate nice and comfortable. It would nice if you can tune it based on a persons preference. I'm sure thats something telsa can add in the future.

The fact that you're getting your own personal driver/chauffeur for $99/month is crazy think about. This used to be something only the super rich could afford, now basically anybody can have it. Yeah it makes mistakes once in a while, but 90% of my drivers are now disengagement free, and that...

finally, i don't have to keep on driving my wife model 3 that already has v12 and her getting pissed off at me. :)

Fsd 12 isn't perfect but it's good enough for the $99 price. At $199, I didn't think it was worth it.

I'm not saying fsd is matching the video clips in real time, the training video clips are processed and transformed into vectors and placed in a database that can be used to match the input vectors taken from the current drive.

I think the issue is that because its using NN and training data and not explicit hardwired code, we don't know exactly what FSD is doing. I don't know much about AI, so somebody with more knowledge can correct me. My understanding of AI is that it is just essentially pattern matching. Its...

In the absence of map data or incorrect map data, fsd needs to be able to read the lane markings and act appropriately. That's something it doesn't do now and causes a lot of incorrect behavior.

Still nothing for us on the 2024.8 branch. Wtf elon

I have a m3 and I'm in NorCal and I haven't gotten close to curbing my wheels w v12. Of course I've just jinxed myself w this post.

The correct thing is to update the map data so that its accurate. But this particular road has been like this for years and the map data isn't correct. I don't know what the procedure is to get this information corrected.

I actually think its a good thing that not all tesla's have v12 fsd. After using v12 fsd for a week, I've come to the conclusion that its not ready for prime time just yet. While its a vast improvement over v11, and I've personally had most of my drives without any disengagements, there's...

Seems like I don't have enough posts to be able to edit my existing post. Another issue i've encountered is there are some roads with a bicycle marking in the middle of the street and fsd thinks its either a speed bump or debris and it slows down for the bicycle marking.

the biggest issue that i've encountered with fsd v12.3.3 is incorrect map data. I've been in situations where the map is showing a lane is suppose to go straight, but the actual lane marking shows that its a left hand turn. Fsd ends up going straight instead of turning left. It seems like...

Check which software branch you are on. My 2023 model 3 is on the 2024.3 branch and I got fsd v12 last week. My 2024 model y is on the 2024.8 branch and has yet to receive fsd v12. Afaik, nobody running on that branch has fsd v12.

2024.8.9 just got pushed to my model y and it still doesn't have v12.