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Thank you. I probably saw both options separately on different occasions and incorrectly recalled seeing both available at once.

Via holding both scrollwheels? Pretty sure I've done that since the problem started but I will try next time I'm in the car.

This is off topic but been meaning to ask. Has anyone else noticed the shortcut for navigate to Work via swiping on the navigation search bar no longer works? Since about 2 months, BOTH vertical and horizontal swipes set the destination to Home. It used to be that one of those would set the...

Odd since it should be a purely software issue. Why would someone want autowipers on in a MY but not an MS?

I'll check again but I thought if I disengage FSD and then re-engage, the autowipers are turned back on. Maybe that was only for Autopilot though. I'm pretty FSD turns autowipers on for first engagement of the trip though.

Thank you. I suspected there are cars that handle the actual parking aspect of self-parking better. Even though I don't own one myself, I think it's unfortunate that the higher end S and X are actually lacking in some ways compared to the lower end 3 and Y. The dashboard screen is nice, but you...

Thank you! I was trying "voice volume off" and "set voice volume to 0" etc. 😅

Speaking of voice commands. Is there a voice command to turn navigation volume off? You can turn it up or down, but I haven't found a way to turn it off without going into the settings. This would come in handy when using FSD for routine trips where you only need the navigation for FSD, not the...

I prefer hitting the wipers button on the stalk then selecting off or the desired speed from the UI; takes roughly the same amount of time and I don't have to speak to my car. Sometimes I use the wipers shortcut button but that requires searching for it on the taskbbar. The bigger challenge is...

It wouldn't even be so bad if it simply sucked, but the car insists on using it every time you engage autopilot/FSD, forcing you to turn it off again. I almost always forget that they are active until it does another dry wipe. This happens multiple times a trip. Effectively the routine needs to...

Honest question, does anyone have any picks for autopark systems that are better than Tesla's in any regard? In person I've only used one and watched several videos of other systems, and am curious if there are systems with any advantages over the Tesla. The pros of the Tesla system: -The...

Any advice on subscription vs purchase? I think I would trade-up to a newer car at around 5 years. So purchase would only be worthwhile if I am able to transfer or the subscription price goes up significantly. I know there have been FSD transfer promotions, but how frequent and long have they...

It seems to do that fuzz out effect at the edges of the screen, but will not indicate impaired visibility within the inner portion of the screen. For example in this clip @29:20, notice how the car waiting in the left half of the intersecting road pops into existence. The visualization...

I suspect I'm missing something, but isn't Navigate on Autopilot being used in that photo, rather than FSD?

Another option might be to make the additional cameras viewable, though it might be difficult for the driver to manage the additional information in real time. The visualization can combine all of the cameras into one easy to read image, but I think the reliability of the visualization is still...

On the tangent topic of superhuman performance, I was thinking about how nice it would be for the car to have front bumper cameras for situations where there is limited cross traffic visibility. For example this scenario where Chuck gets stuck @7:15. The catch 22 is that for an L2 system...

True. And likewise I imagine they exclude clips that are not necessarily catastrophic but less than ideal. For example a driver passing up a safe opportunity to advance through an intersection. I'm sure they've closely evaluated any clip that made it into the training set. Though they probably...

Does v12 work this way? Before E2E I might expect FSD to make explicit trajectory calculations, but does v12 work this way? Also, regarding the processing of multiple camera feeds at the same. If the training is taken from human driving examples, and humans cannot see in all directions...

Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for. The article mentions they had to modify the software to get around the geo-restriction. Hard to know if it followed the rules of traffic perfectly but it seemed to run through the city smoothly. I imagine it's on par with a foreigner renting a car...

What's interesting about Chuck's turn is that it's an uncommon traffic pattern; at least I've never really seen it in my travels. It's apparent the developers payed special attention to this turn for whatever reason. The visualization highlights the medium (is that what it's called?) in light...

Interesting. Would love to see a brave Youtuber test out v12 outside of the designated regions. At least in a country with right-hand traffic so it stands a chance.😅

Hypothetical question: What would happen if you tried to engage FSD in an area where it is not supported, e.g. if you drove it to Mexico or shipped it overseas? Are there geo-restriction checks in place?

Seems like the video bitrate is throttled in response to latency. Video games are already low throughput but struggle with latency. Not sure how many milliseconds of delay is acceptable for remote driving. They also mention a Minimal Risk Maneuver to safely guide the car when there is a...

I'm also having trouble imagining how you could safely drive a car remotely. Anyone who's played a video game over the internet knows input lag is not your friend.

That which does not kill us makes us stronger. Too bad I didn't get to see before 11.4.9. Rolling stops and Current Speed = Max Speed, those were the days of high adventure.

Next week... whenever that is

Lol. I had you wrong, Tester. You're a decent guy.

I get that you find it useful. But why would you buy FSD only to end up using cruise control? If you bought a computer but all you use it for is to make grocery lists, does that make the computer useful to you? I suppose so. But why not just buy a pen and paper?

You're suggesting the value of cruise control is that it spares you the physical fatigue of operating the pedal? But if you're looking for relief while driving, you are probably taking a long highway trip, in which case FSD is a bit overkill compared to any other cruise control +/- lane...

Just wanted to add to this. Even though I am here primarily to learn, I feel it's selfish and cold to come to a forum purely to ask questions and give nothing in return. That is why I try to offer information when I have any, or at least offer an opinion when I feel informed enough. Same is true...

No high horse here, sir. When there is something I don't know about I am humble and ask questions, I'm sure you've seen that. I don't have as many miles as most on here but I've also been consuming FSD information voraciously and using FSD extensively.

Every forum has the circle jerk old guard that doesn't like to see new members. I'm a bit surprised even with the more mature crowd we have here this still holds true. Ironic you are accusing me of being a troll when the bulk of your comments on here are in fact just that.

Still waiting for an opportunity to try it on a really long trip. I'm planning on a trip to Canada soon and am also curious how FSD will operate there.

Who in this thread is arguing that it's simple or unimpressive for a computer to drive a car? Trying to argue that physically turning a steering is difficult for a human being in a million words makes you look like a troll or a lunatic.

Could it be slowing down in response to the flashing yellow lights in general rather than the active school zone sign specifically? Similar to how it slows down for flashing lights at a fire station?

My point when I posed the question "why use FSD if you need to monitor it anyway" is that there is more value in FSD than just its utility. It has entertainment value as well, which is a big part of why I use it, and why I was against eliminating left turns several pages ago. That's not to say I...

Before I knew about the scrollwheel method, I was using the torque method. And I found it required less torque to clear the nags after logging several miles with FSD, and the nags became MUCH less frequent as well.

That's what I meant. The more you use it, the less harsh the nags are. At least compared to when you are new to FSD.

Interesting. Btw I meant when FSD is new to your account, not when you first engage it for the trip. Might've been ambiguous.

Haven't seen this mentioned but are the nags not more frequent and harder to clear when you first start using FSD?

Has FSD acutally been that good on the highway? Until recently (before v12), phantom braking was a huge problem. Currently on "v12 highways" you have the ridiculous lane wobble issue. Even on v11 highways, I had to disengage recently because it was driving straight into a concrete median while...

I keep my arms and foot relaxed unless I'm approaching a situation I've deemed risky, as you described. Though I acknowledge that it's not exactly proper and my chances of reacting to an emergency that I did not anticipate are diminished.

Is this a long and pretentious way of saying turning a steering wheel is mentally taxing? I honestly can't tell. Ha.

Seems hard to believe that even with heavy traffic it's slower than 3 right turns, but I'm willing to believe UPS's research.

Unless I'm traveling through a complex and congested city like Manhattan, making a difficult left turn, or sitting still for more than an hour, I don't find driving to be stressful or exhausting. None of those situations does FSD currently make better for me.

If you're supervising then presumably you are watching the surroundings as well. Same with navigation. You need to pay attention to how the car is following navigation. Because if it is making a mistake, you need to anticipate and observe how it might try to correct itself. E.g. if it picks a...

I responded to this in my previous post.

Not really relevant the point I was making. But substitute back seat with front seat, or L3+ with L4+. I was describing a scenario where you would be paying less attention to the road. Most of the work of driving is deciding what to do. Moving the pedals and steering wheel is trivial and...

Since you are in this thread, I presume you use or have used FSD at some point. Knowing that you need to monitor the car's driving at all times, what is your purpose for using it?

Regarding the cameras, what would cause them to lose calibration in the first place? Getting jarred out of place while driving?