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    Firmware 5.0

    Wi-Fi and Tethering in Version 5.0 Perhaps this is old news but thought I'd share: Turned in Model S for annual maintenance at 11.5k miles today. Dallas service center. They gave me a Performance Plus loaner with 300 miles on it and Version 5.0. Front and rear sensors works great and...
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    Negative Camber in the Rear and Expensive Tires

    I also would like to know if Tesla will pay for this. My Sig Performance has same wear pattern (with steel threads showing) at 9000 miles.
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    Bad experience with flood waters

    For future reference and prevention: what is the maximum number of inches of water that can be driven through safely in the Model S according to Tesla and assuming air suspension is set to high?
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    Major accident for me tonight (5/26) (New P85 arrives 7/8)

    GasDoc, 1) Thank you for sharing your story and pictures - from a fellow gas doc myself. 2) Am glad to hear you and your family are fine. 3) Will be watching out and trying to drive more defensively thanks to your story. 4) Will probably be setting up a will for my own family again thanks...
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    Help me decide - Model S P85 or pre-owned BMW M5 (new F10)

    I'm biased but: HUD is over-rated; a 17" LCD and 12" LCD instrument panel is way cooler Range in model is fine; sometimes I forget to plug in at night. Model S can go on the track too (I haven't). Model S is faster 0-100; see youtube. Model S has Luxury items also: push a button, ask for any...
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    Using Pandora in your Model S

    I used to think Pandora was better until I tried Slacker with the Model S: 1) Slacker has 8M songs to Pandora's ~1M 2) Slacker (paid version) allows for unlimited skips unlike Pandora (paid version). 3) Slacker plays any song you search for immediately. With Pandora, you have to be lucky...
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    swegman: Car won't turn on (screens are dark)

    Very sorry to hear this. This is a worst case scenario or close to it. Thanks for sharing. 1) Keep the faith. We all rolled the dice buying this car and it could've (and still could) happen to any one of us. For example, I haven't sold my Prius yet so I can keep it around just in case your...
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    Things you may not have discovered about your Model S?!

    I applied the adhesive part of the toll tag on the medial, interior aspect of the removable nose cone cover. B/c the toll tag is taller than the nose cone cover, I didn't remove the entire adhesive backing from the toll tag; I left about 1/3 of the adhesive backing on the toll tag. If it...
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    Things you may not have discovered about your Model S?!

    Been mentioned before elsewhere on this forum but should belong in this thread too: Signature Model S (I'm not sure about non-signature version) have a small compartment in the nosecone to hide contraband or access the 12v battery. I'm using this secret space to put my TollTag (instead of my...
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    license plate frame

    Has anyone received a Tesla-branded, black duffel bag from Tesla a few weeks after taking delivery? Please let me know thanks.
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    Bad UMC: Model S not charging

    Tesla service guy did remote diagnostics and said that I had a bad UMC. However, the UMCs are all on back order. Actually, no, the term he used was "shortage". I must now wait for a new UMC to arrive. Hopefully this is the end of this story. Apparently, several other users are experiencing...
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    Bad UMC: Model S not charging

    So here's what happened: After leaving to work yesterday in AM, I look at the color around the charge port. It is white with the charging cable plugged in. I go to remove the charging cable. Upon touching it or pressing the button (I can't remember which), I hear the locking sound and the...
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    Bad UMC: Model S not charging

    Thanks for mentioning the fuse numbers. This helps a lot. However, I will call Tesla service first and follow up with the results in this forum.
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    Bad UMC: Model S not charging

    I've removed and re-inserted the charging cable excessively in frustration already (about 20x in rapid succession). - - - Updated - - - I tried at a regular 120v outlet with same result. I've also flipped the breakers on/off on my 240v outlet (they were not originally tripped). Hmmm...
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    Bad UMC: Model S not charging

    After commenting just 20 min ago how much I enjoy the Model S, I came home this evening, plugged in Model S and then: 1) Model S locked the charging cable to the car and wouldn't release and wasn't charging 2) Somehow, I got it to release the charging cable (via Open Charge Port, pushing the...
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    Stuck charge cord

    1) Thank you to all for pointing me in the right direction. 2) However, the post I think I remember reading was a Model S that was stuck in the wild, not at home and not on Jalopnik.com (I do not read this site). 3) Thank you Robert.Boston for explaining this sequence. No DS in TX means I'm...
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    Stuck charge cord

    Model S stranded due to problems removing a public charger from the charge port This hasn't happened to me, but I remember reading about a Model S who was stranded and had to get towed due to the inability to remove a public charger from the charge port. I'm not sure of the details, but I...
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    Positive/Negative feedback of Model S from an owner's perspective

    Never mind I figured it out. Regarding error message, the car seems to have restarted this morning and there is no error message anymore. This is what happens when you don't get a delivery specialist in Texas.
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    Positive/Negative feedback of Model S from an owner's perspective

    Two problems just ocurred : 1) I pushed on the driver side door handle to see if it would pop out without the key fob in proximity . The door opened! 2) I'm getting an error message: "Service car soon. Car may stop unexpectedly." Anyone have an idea what's happening here? I got two...
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    Positive/Negative feedback of Model S from an owner's perspective

    The ability of the car fob to work in close proximity to my cell phone was a good surprise. Another good surprise was that after the software update, the Homelink (which was incredibly easy to program!) became "location aware" so that everytime I pull into my driveway, the Homelink button turns...
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    Positive/Negative feedback of Model S from an owner's perspective

    I do not believe the stain was from the delivery truck man. I showed the stain to him and asked to see if his hands were dirty. His hands were very clean. He did mention to me that Tesla offers a free detail when you get delivery of the vehicle. I have yet to confirm if this is true or not.
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    Positive/Negative feedback of Model S from an owner's perspective

    Got mine on 12-11-12. No need to post photos of Performance, silver, carbon fiber, pano roof - everyone's seen photos before. Here are my findings as an owner: Positive feedback: 1) Tesla nailed it. The driving experience is faster than an Aston Martin Vanquish (according to MotorTrend). So...
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    Three Weeks with Signature Performance (Pros and Cons)

    Thank you for the succinct and detailed post. This is what we need. Too late for me to back out despite the problems. I'm already committed to buying and it should be here in a few weeks. But yeah, those are necessarily deal breakers (unless there were a sufficient number of them that it...
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    Can't decide between Model S or Audi S6

    I'm getting the Tesla. However, when the EV version of the Audi S6 comes out, I'll reconsider then. By going all electric and still being a performance vehicle, Model S has its advantages, and so far nothing else competes. The decision between Model S vs smelly gas powered Audi S6 ought to be...
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    Can't decide between Model S or Audi S6

    It seems that the OP's main criteria are: 1) Valuing the interior amenities of an S6 more than the value of going electric. 2) Valuing the exterior style of the S6 over the Model S. Not much can be done about #2 (although I have to say I like Model S exterior - it's different, but not so...
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    Cinergi's Model S

    Okay, I believe you. I wish I wasn't built as such a non believer b/c it can make things more stressful. But I get paid to be nervous and not believe what I see, so I guess it's a vestige of my training/profession.
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    Cinergi's Model S

    Ugh...$100 for ranger service or you have to drive the car into a shop or what happens? Bugs are adding up quick. Perhaps my low threshold for bugs makes me not an appropriate Model S buyer. I just figured "with Tesla attention to quality", a luxury (premium) vehicle, and 100k price tag...
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    Can't decide between Model S or Audi S6

    I realize there are purists out there, and you can't please everybody: 1) Perhaps for those people who prefer dirty analog hiss over clean digital sound, cassette tape is better for them over MP3. 2) For those who prefer purity of caring for animals and a quiet ride, a horse and buggy is for...
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    Can't decide between Model S or Audi S6

    S6 vs Model S Performance. I don't know what all the hubbub is all about. The decision maker here isn't cost; they are both expensive. The decision maker isn't speed; they're both fast. The key decision maker here is: S6 has a dirty gas engine, a jerky/clunky unsmooth ride when you floor...
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    Can't decide between Model S or Audi S6

    Being one of the most skeptical towards the Model S, let me say why for me the scales are slightly tipped in favor of purchasing the Model S. I've also driven an E63 AMG: 1) All gas cars are clunky, dirty, smell bad, and have many things that can break down. So in the end, all gas cars are the...
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    Owners: what are the three biggest quirks or drawbacks that you have found?

    Thanks for your input. I guess I can handle once a week for now, and I'm looking forward to taking delivery of the vehicle. But I just want to make sure I made the right decision over leasing the Volt for 2 years then getting Model S 2.0. Tesla is going to have to step it up soon b/c word...
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    Owners: what are the three biggest quirks or drawbacks that you have found?

    Obviously I expect bugs, and that's why I said I can tolerate 4-5 restarts / yr. But at some point, it becomes too much. That tolerable limit is a personal thing, however I think most people here would agree that a restart everyday is too much. When you throw in the things like cupholders and...
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    Owners: what are the three biggest quirks or drawbacks that you have found?

    THIS is what I was afraid of, the frustration. I'm too old to want to put up with bugs and restarts, and don't want to have to restart (maybe 4-5x per year would be okay). I had enough of that BS with Windows XP SP 5000. I wonder why your experience is different from that of many others...
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    TMC Book of Records for the Model S...

    How about first one to be stranded in between cities due to being out of battery?
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    Owners: what are the three biggest quirks or drawbacks that you have found?

    I'm pretty happy to hear that and slightly more reassured. Thanks. However, it is only when I think of the quirks and the 100k price of the car do I start to question it all. Honestly, I'm excited to find out if I made the right choice or not. Model S 1.0 vs 24month Volt lease then Model S 2.0.
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    What does the battery degradation curve look like?

    I have to vote johnchamplinhall as having the best first post of all users here in the forum. Thank you for such an informative and timely post. Man, I hope you're right about the NCA in Model S. 20yrs is crazy long...
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    Owners: what are the three biggest quirks or drawbacks that you have found?

    You're probably right, but I don't think discussing the minor quirks of a car on YouTube will seriously affect demand - unless perhaps the quirks are so numerous (i.e. many minors quirks = one major quirk). In addition, openness helps keep companies honest and address the issues. At this...
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    Owners: what are the three biggest quirks or drawbacks that you have found?

    Man oh man... I guess I knew what I would be getting into with this version 1.00.00 Service Pack 0 Model S; I was just hoping somehow the quirks would all be tolerable. Maybe when I take delivery, they will be to me, but man I hate to settle. And is this even settling?: Buzzing sounds...
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    Racked with indecision...

    I agree with the inflation thing but a Prius or a Volt is a cheaper durable asset that provides the same utility, so tht would seem to be a better buy than Model S. Anyway "asset" is debatable since most cars decrease in value. I guess if Tesla went bankrupt, the Model S's on the road may be...
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    Racked with indecision...

    Pete, I would not buy the Model S unless: 1) it was the 85kwh battery pack b/c you have to consider eventual battery degradation, non-conservative driving habits and outside temperature and their negative effects on range and 2) I made at least 3-4x the cost of the car or could buy the car...
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    Owners: what are the three biggest quirks or drawbacks that you have found?

    After hearing all the hype and being the ever-skeptic, I'd like to know what current Model S owners are disliking about their new Model S. Any quirks about the vehicle that really bother you? Example: 1) No power folding mirrors 2) No concealable storage space within cabin except for...
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    Windshield wipers and de-icing

    I've watched most of your Model S Vids, Ben. Thanks for taking the time to make them. Ive learned a lot just watching. For example, resetting the computer by holding down both scroll wheels. A couple of comments: 1) I hope you don't have to reset too often b/c that would mean it's not one...
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    Cinergi's Model S

    It's on the TSLA S-1: "The range of our electric vehicles on a single charge declines principally as a function of usage, time and charging patterns. For example, a customer’s use of their Tesla vehicle as well as the frequency with which they 116 Table of Contents charge the battery...
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    Cinergi's Model S

    Hi Cinergi, Your projected miles is 199 in the video and battery degradation is a concern for me. If the Model S retains 67% of its original battery charge after 7yrs or 100k miles, then that would be about 134 projected miles of range after being "fully" charged in standard mode. I guess...
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    Hansjörg von Gemmingen Roadster pack out of juice?

    Do you or does someone here know for a fact that the Model S battery is LiNiCoAlO2? I called Tesla and the person I spoke with did not know what the battery chemistry of the Model S was - despite doing a lot of searching in their knowledge base while I waited on the phone. The only thing I've...
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    What does the battery degradation curve look like?

    Man I hope you're right, and it does seem to make sense to me. I called Tesla to ask more, and the "answer" was that "it's all theory" and battery degradation rate wasn't known (though they said it was 4-7% in the Roadster). But the person I spoke with said that he thinks if he can recall...
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    What does the battery degradation curve look like?

    Since it seems that Roadsters are having similar degradation rates, would it be okay to extrapolate and say that at 100k odometer miles, a Roadster would have roughly a 20% loss of range? And a 30% loss of range at 150k? (Yes, all rough estimates). Further, since battery technology (Thank you...
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    What does the battery degradation curve look like?

    The recent German article that reports that one owner's Roadster is getting only 100 km of range after going 150k miles is highly concerning for me. Cinergi's Roadster over a 2 year period driving a total of 20k miles decreased from 188 miles to 181 miles in range (standard charging). This...
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    Coated windshield impacting door openers and EZpass

    If the windshield is shielded and since the Model S ineloquently does not have power folding mirrors and yet costs 100 thousand ridiculous dollars, my solution to open the garage door with my remote will be to 1) roll down the window, 2) stick my hand out with the remote and push the button, and...
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    My New Model S by Soflauthor (First 24 Hours and then 1 week later...)

    Thank you for this fantastic review. This is exactly what a skeptic like me needs to read. 1) I am concerned about some of the bugs and disappearing screens, but I'm glad they are fixed relatively promptly. 2) I do prefer the minimal look of the current center console or lack thereof. I...