Best reliable SSD for Sentry on Model Y

[crunchor]

Cabin Overheat Protection is to protect ALL of your electronics. Most of which cost far more to replace than some $10 throw-away external USB drive you're so hung up on. The default is on from the factory but I guess you know more than Tesla engineers about these types of things... right? If you disable that to save a buck or two a month on energy it's you who is the genius.

Not sure why you're attacking me personally & being rude considering it's pretty clear that you have no idea what you're talking about on this subject in this thread. On the other hand, I've worked in the IT industry at various capacities over the last few decades and have untold time deploying, optimizing and trouble shooting the exact devices of which you speak. Never mind that you clearly know nothing other than random spec sheets you Google'd up.

Buying a drive type based solely on being worried about a couple of degrees while simultaneously disabling the cabin heat overprotection of a computer on wheels that costs tens of thousands of dollars has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum. Good thing you bought that drive that can take a couple of degrees more since it's the only piece of electronics in the car. /sarcasm

Sorry I helped. Enjoy your USB drive champ.

It uses air conditioning to cool down Cabin, that is all it does, most of us only has usb flash drive in Cabin, just buy usb flash drive that works like 60 degrees and no need to burn car battery for air conditioning to make SSD works.

 

[crunchor]

It uses air conditioning to cool down Cabin, that is all it does, most of us only has usb flash drive in Cabin, just buy usb flash drive that works like 60 degrees and no need to burn car battery for air conditioning to make SSD works.

This cool down cabin mode can turn on air condition for 12 hours, that can be like 50% if your car battery or more. No one wants to attack you, just your mind set is too special. Of course Tesla turn it on by default so people need to pay them more often for supercharging.

 

[Ostrichsak]

This cool down cabin mode can turn on air condition for 12 hours, that can be like 50% if your car battery or more. No one wants to attack you, just your mind set is too special. Of course Tesla turn it on by default so people need to pay them more often for supercharging.

You really need to stop presenting made up BS numbers as fact. Others may read this crap and think that it's even remotely true. You know nothing about SSDs and it's pretty clear that you don't even know anything about your own car. I was genuinely done with this thread until you dropped this massive load of bovine excrement on the world.

Over 50% of your cars battery to cool the cabin for 12hrs?! That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. As someone who car camps in Teslas regularly both in hot and cold climates, the common usage measured in range is typically 10-15 miles per night. I've seen as long as 7 miles in some cases. That's over 8 hours of keeping the cabin at less than 70°F which requires far, far, FAR more energy than to keep the cabin under 100/95/90°F.

If your car is using over 50% of it's battery pack for cabin overheat protection then you either have a battery pack capable of only 20 miles of range at 100% SoC or you have a serious problem and need to have your car looked at. I'm not sure that the HVAC systems in these cars are even capable of using that much energy if they could run at 100% duty cycle for 12hrs w/o melting down.

This idea that Tesla enables Cabin Overheat Protection by default to make more profit on Supercharging is one of the funniest things you've said yet in a running list of knee-slappers.

You should seriously quit while you're behind and I'll just chalk up much of what I'm reading as a language barrier issue to give you the credit of the doubt. You should spend a lot more time reading posts than replying to them if your desire is to actually better your knowledge on these topics.

Classic case of: "It's better to remain silent and let them think you a fool than speak and remove all doubt"

 

[crunchor]

You really need to stop presenting made up BS numbers as fact. Others may read this crap and think that it's even remotely true. You know nothing about SSDs and it's pretty clear that you don't even know anything about your own car. I was genuinely done with this thread until you dropped this massive load of bovine excrement on the world.

Over 50% of your cars battery to cool the cabin for 12hrs?! That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. As someone who car camps in Teslas regularly both in hot and cold climates, the common usage measured in range is typically 10-15 miles per night. I've seen as long as 7 miles in some cases. That's over 8 hours of keeping the cabin at less than 70°F which requires far, far, FAR more energy than to keep the cabin under 100/95/90°F.

If your car is using over 50% of it's battery pack for cabin overheat protection then you either have a battery pack capable of only 20 miles of range at 100% SoC or you have a serious problem and need to have your car looked at. I'm not sure that the HVAC systems in these cars are even capable of using that much energy if they could run at 100% duty cycle for 12hrs w/o melting down.

This idea that Tesla enables Cabin Overheat Protection by default to make more profit on Supercharging is one of the funniest things you've said yet in a running list of knee-slappers.

You should seriously quit while you're behind and I'll just chalk up much of what I'm reading as a language barrier issue to give you the credit of the doubt. You should spend a lot more time reading posts than replying to them if your desire is to actually better your knowledge on these topics.

Classic case of: "It's better to remain silent and let them think you a fool than speak and remove all doubt"

How much battery it uses is totally depend on how hot outside. I don’t think you were camping in Arizona or somewhere that hot.

 

[Ostrichsak]

How much battery it uses is totally depend on how hot outside. I don’t think you were camping in Arizona or somewhere that hot.

It's funny you mention that because one of the many times we've done that was LITERALLY Arizona. Scottsdale for one of the more recent trips to be exact. The daytime high that day was 114°F. Even in a worst-case-type-scenario where the delta between ambient air tempt and internal target temp is ~40°F the energy consumption wasn't even close to 1/10th the BS you're spewing as if you have any idea what you're talking about. In that same scenario, Cabin Overheat Protection would have had a delta between ambient and target of about 10°F, give or take. Explain how a target temperature of about 25% less spread uses 10x more energy. Nothing you say makes sense. Math & thermal dynamics aren't an opinion or just some crap you make up. You really should just quit while you're behind.

 

[crunchor]

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It's funny you mention that because one of the many times we've done that was LITERALLY Arizona. Scottsdale for one of the more recent trips to be exact. The daytime high that day was 114°F. Even in a worst-case-type-scenario where the delta between ambient air tempt and internal target temp is ~40°F the energy consumption wasn't even close to 1/10th the BS you're spewing as if you have any idea what you're talking about. In that same scenario, Cabin Overheat Protection would have had a delta between ambient and target of about 10°F, give or take. Explain how a target temperature of about 25% less spread uses 10x more energy. Nothing you say makes sense. Math & thermal dynamics aren't an opinion or just some crap you make up. You really should just quit while you're behind.

Number don’t lie

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/s/xNg5HFq88A

 

[stopcrazypp]

I will buy samsung bar plus 256gb orm


Normal SSD only has around 30 degrees limit and that should be a main reason why a lot of people report ssd just stop working, car directly under sun can easily go over 40 degrees.

Micro SD endurance version is durable but reader or adapter may not be that durable especially under extreme temperature.

High endurance MicroSD cards are designed for high write cycles and a high temperature range and are actually warrantied for dashcam usage. Last I looked there was no USB thumb drive or SSD actually warrantied for dashcam usage nor for a specific amount of write cycles (you can look up their warranties, they explicitly exclude high write cycle applications like dashcams).

The reader or adapter may be a weak link because if you use a small one (like the popular Sandisk thumbnail sized one), the heat from the usb port can transfer over to the card and reader.

I have been using this reader with a high endurance card microSD card through the SD card adapter that comes with it (meaning I plug it into the full size slot, not the microSD slot). This seems to help isolate the heat even further.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EFPX9XA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Knock on wood, but other than one particular update that was known to break the dashcam (affected basically everyone), this has worked flawlessly for me (I keep the dashcam icon docked to the menu bar so I can immediately see if it fails every drive). I also keep the Tesla USB drive included with the car in the glovebox as a backup (to swap when I pull the drive to get the footage).

 

[crunchor]

High endurance MicroSD cards are designed for high write cycles and a high temperature range and are actually warrantied for dashcam usage. Last I looked there was no USB thumb drive or SSD actually warrantied for dashcam usage nor for a specific amount of write cycles (you can look up their warranties, they explicitly exclude high write cycle applications like dashcams).

The reader or adapter may be a weak link because if you use a small one (like the popular Sandisk thumbnail sized one), the heat from the usb port can transfer over to the card and reader.

I have been using this reader with a high endurance card microSD card through the SD card adapter that comes with it (meaning I plug it into the full size slot, not the microSD slot). This seems to help isolate the heat even further.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EFPX9XA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Knock on wood, but other than one particular update that was known to break the dashcam (affected basically everyone), this has worked flawlessly for me (I keep the dashcam icon docked to the menu bar so I can immediately see if it fails every drive). I also keep the Tesla USB drive included with the car in the glovebox as a backup (to swap when I pull the drive to get the footage).

I doubt the reader or adapter can still be functional under extreme temperature.

 

[stopcrazypp]

I doubt the reader or adapter can still be functional under extreme temperature.

I have never had issues running it, even when parked for Sentry mode (although I typically only use it for short stops, not ones that go many hours). I don't use cabin overheat mode at all. The only thing I have for my car are roof shades. I have a separate parking camera setup that runs on a separate battery system, and occasionally I have used sentry mode when I have run out of battery on that system. No issues even when cabin temperatures reach 140-150F (although to be fair, that is the measured temperature at the top of the cabin, near the center console area is considerably cooler).

The write speeds for dashcam actually isn't that high, so the cards don't really get super hot (unlike applications that might write at full speed which is minimum 30MB/s for the V30 cards I use).

 

[GData]

Cabin Overheat Protection is to protect ALL of your electronics. Most of which cost far more to replace than some $10 throw-away external USB drive you're so hung up on. The default is on from the factory but I guess you know more than Tesla engineers about these types of things... right? If you disable that to save a buck or two a month on energy it's you who is the genius.

Cabin Overheat Protection is for passenger comfort, not to protect the car's electronics.

The manual even says as much:

Cabin Overheat Protection may take up to 15 minutes to enable once you exit the vehicle. This feature is intended for passenger comfort and has no impact on the reliability of your vehicle's components.

 

[Ostrichsak]

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Number don’t lie

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/s/xNg5HFq88A

If some rando posted it on Reddit, it MUST be true! You're beyond help at this point and you've demonstrated a complete lack of common sense with your posts and proving that you'd ever provide any useful insight on any topic ever. I initially thought that your posts were a genuine attempt to gain knowledge and insight on a topic and now I see that it's just a troll, trolling. Rather than continue feeding the troll I'm just going to add you to my ignore list.

Cabin Overheat Protection is for passenger comfort, not to protect the car's electronics.

The manual even says as much:

Cabin Overheat Protection may take up to 15 minutes to enable once you exit the vehicle. This feature is intended for passenger comfort and has no impact on the reliability of your vehicle's components.

You've made my point. Tesla even says the electronics within the car don't need protected from the type of heat vehicle cabins reach. I told this person they don't need to worry about the heat which aligns with Tesla's stance (along with every engineer in related segments) that the electronics are engineered to withstand the heat commonly found in vehicle cabins during the summer months.

This person is clearly putting thermal resilience at the top of their list so I suggested Cabin Overheat Protection as one can easily keep the cabin temps from exceeding 35°C if that's what they were concerned about. Again... these are NOT my concerns. I know better.

It doesn't matter anymore and I'm done with this whole topic. Y'all can go ahead and do whatever you want. It's your cars. Just don't come on here dropping fake statistics acting like they're real numbers that should be taken seriously. There was some good info early in this thread but then it devolved into complete BS.

 

[stopcrazypp]

If some rando posted it on Reddit, it MUST be true! You're beyond help at this point and you've demonstrated a complete lack of common sense with your posts and proving that you'd ever provide any useful insight on any topic ever. I initially thought that your posts were a genuine attempt to gain knowledge and insight on a topic and now I see that it's just a troll, trolling. Rather than continue feeding the troll I'm just going to add you to my ignore list.


You've made my point. Tesla even says the electronics within the car don't need protected from the type of heat vehicle cabins reach. I told this person they don't need to worry about the heat which aligns with Tesla's stance (along with every engineer in related segments) that the electronics are engineered to withstand the heat commonly found in vehicle cabins during the summer months.

This person is clearly putting thermal resilience at the top of their list so I suggested Cabin Overheat Protection as one can easily keep the cabin temps from exceeding 35°C if that's what they were concerned about. Again... these are NOT my concerns. I know better.

It doesn't matter anymore and I'm done with this whole topic. Y'all can go ahead and do whatever you want. It's your cars. Just don't come on here dropping fake statistics acting like they're real numbers that should be taken seriously. There was some good info early in this thread but then it devolved into complete BS.

To be fair, he is not concerned about the interior electronics, he's concerned external USB SSDs not rated for high temperatures will shut down and thus fail to record a critical moment. The resources you link give the core temperatures of the internal SSDs in desktops, but not the ambient temperatures it is operating in. In higher ambient temperatures, the core temp may exceed those shown in tests, especially when in an enclosure with no airflow (whereas most desktops have cooling fans). Also, what fails may not necessarily be the memory chip, it may also be other components (like the USB interface).

 

[Ostrichsak]

To be fair, he is not concerned about the interior electronics, he's concerned external USB SSDs not rated for high temperatures will shut down and thus fail to record a critical moment. The resources you link give the core temperatures of the internal SSDs in desktops, but not the ambient temperatures it is operating in. In higher ambient temperatures, the core temp may exceed those shown in tests, especially when in an enclosure with no airflow (whereas most desktops have cooling fans). Also, what fails may not necessarily be the memory chip, it may also be other components (like the USB interface).

..if you disable Cabin Overheat Protection.

This is not a difficult concept to understand.