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Tesla Touts Improvements with FSD Beta 10.5 Release

Some Tesla vehicles with access to the Full Self Driving beta program have started receiving version 10.5.

Access to the beta program requires owners to give Tesla access to driving data to produce a “safety test score.“ Despite Tesla’s software taking over some of the driving duties, Tesla still wants attentive drivers behind the wheel. Beta access is only delivered to owners with a safety score of at least 98.

Most TMC members were still waiting on access on Monday morning.

According to the release notes, improvements include:

  • Improved VRU (pedestrians, bicyclists, motorcycles) crossing velocity error by 20% from improved quality in our auto-labeling.
  • Improved static world predictions (road lines, edges, and lane connectivity) by up to 13% using a new static world auto-labeler and adding 165K auto-labeled videos.
  • Improved cone and sign detections by upreving the generalized static object network with 15K more video clips and adjusting oversampling and overweighting strategies (+ 4.5% precision, + 10.4% recall).
  • Improved cut-in detection network by 5.5% to help reduce false slowdowns.
  • Enabled “emergency collision avoidance maneuvering” in shadow mode
  • Enabled behavior to lane change away from merges when safe to do so.
  • Improved merge object detection recall by using multi-modal object prediction at intersections.
  • Improved control for merges by increasing smoothness of arrival time constraints and considering possible merging objects beyond visibility.
  • Improved lane changes by allowing larger deceleration limit in short-deadline situations.
  • Improved lateral control for creeping forward to get more visibility.
  • Improved modeling of road boundaries on high curvature roads for finer maneuvers.
  • Improved logic to stay on-route and avoid unnecessary detours/rerouting.

Tesla has sold the Full Self-Driving package for years but has yet to deliver on its promise of a full self-driving vehicle. Tesla has also received some recent scrutiny from regulators over accidents that have occurred while the Autopilot feature is engaged. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is currently investigating incidents where Tesla’s with Autopilot engaged crashed into emergency vehicles parked on the side of the road.

slacker775

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I would take that very much to mean that those annoying false slowdowns will be reduced. Can’t wait to find out. That’s probably the biggest thing currently preventing me from using FSD beta more often.
 
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TicoMcC

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It is for that reason that I typically will not use it if someone is too close behind me. But I just did a 300+ mile drive to the OBX and I experienced only 3 or 4 phantom braking events, and only of about 5-10 mph. Not great, but they were also fairly gradual. Nothing sudden. I had to turn it off on route 158 in NC because it kept trying to get into the left (fast) lane about every 30 seconds. Annoying as he'll as there was no one within a quarter of a mile of us and I had no turn for at least 40 miles. It has done this periodically before, but it was constant on 158.
 
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h2omen

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The reduce false slowdown will be a great improvement. I’ve have had a problem with sudden braking and the warning of “near head on collision“ and nothing is on the road. The other problem I’ve had is the street speed limit post correctly but the cruise control locks in 11 to13 mph over the speed limit. I do have an appointment with Tesla, they’re going to check my sensors on Tuesday.
 

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It is for that reason that I typically will not use it if someone is too close behind me. But I just did a 300+ mile drive to the OBX and I experienced only 3 or 4 phantom braking events, and only of about 5-10 mph.
That's how Phantom Braking is hitting me as well, 5-10 mph slowdowns. Luckily, it is not slamming on the brakes.
Not great, but they were also fairly gradual. Nothing sudden. I had to turn it off on route 158 in NC because it kept trying to get into the left (fast) lane about every 30 seconds. Annoying as hell as there was no one within a quarter of a mile of us and I had no turn for at least 40 miles. It has done this periodically before, but it was constant on 158.
I turned off Automatic Lane change under Navigate on AutoPilot and it no longer makes lane changes under FSD either.
 

n.one.one

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LOL...not exactly a massive rollout as of now (per TeslaFi).
But it's nice to see it has begun.


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Phantom braking events seem to be connected to road glare. I can drive the same route with the sun behind me or when it is overcast and get little to no events. When I drive that west facing route in late afternoon as I do almost everyday, FSD is unstable, left turns dangerous, and there are parts of the road where the car will not drive over 50mph regardless of traffic conditions.
 

novox77

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Phantom braking events seem to be connected to road glare. I can drive the same route with the sun behind me or when it is overcast and get little to no events. When I drive that west facing route in late afternoon as I do almost everyday, FSD is unstable, left turns dangerous, and there are parts of the road where the car will not drive over 50mph regardless of traffic conditions.

I have gotten plenty of phantom braking on overcast days and nothing visualized incorrectly (like a person instead of a mailbox). I also get lots of phantom braking for tree shadows. They aren't hard brakes, but annoying to feel because it's unexpected and unwarranted. Night time works best for me. But I've read that others have horrible phantom braking at night. 🤷
 
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El joe

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Phantom braking events seem to be connected to road glare. I can drive the same route with the sun behind me or when it is overcast and get little to no events. When I drive that west facing route in late afternoon as I do almost everyday, FSD is unstable, left turns dangerous, and there are parts of the road where the car will not drive over 50mph regardless of traffic conditions.
Odd. I get most of my phantom braking occurrences at night. It makes it almost unusable, to me, at night. During the day it’s been pretty good.
 
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I just got my Safety Score to 99 on Friday (3 days ago). Should I not expect to receive an invite until they finally get to the "new users" portion of the rolling release for 10.5, or will I just get 10.4 in a few days? Starting to look like it may be a while before they get to inviting 98s/new users to 10.5 if they still haven't rolled out the software today.
 

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