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  1. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You seem very unaware what this thread is for. Hint: not for discussion of The Former Bird and not to do your research for you on a company not relevant to Tesla.
  2. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Go look it up yourself and take it to the proper forum.
  3. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We’re well aware. Move it to the proper cesspool thread it belongs.
  4. Krugerrand

    SpaceX FH - Psyche - LC-39A

    As with the human species, not all of the feline species is particularly intelligent.
  5. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The button does not represent ‘dislike’. It represents ‘disagree’. Those two things are very different, though it’s quite possible I feel both. If the forum allowed multiple reactions then that would help. The moment you say something that evokes a feeling of like, laughter, helpfulness or...
  6. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Said nobody who’s driven a fossil fuel car (that feels like it’s gonna rattle apart) and needed to fuel in a sketchy place. Because we all know gas stations are a place where the best citizens of the planet love to congregate.
  7. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The disagree is mostly that Mr Black has proven to have no more clue today than he did yesterday what Tesla should be worth. It’s also because you linked to his nonsense.
  8. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And he’s mad. I love an angry Elon. 💩 gets done when he’s mad.
  9. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That’s what YOU think should be done. It’s clearly not how Elon sees it and he has way more information than you. He already told you why. Did you not read the various email excerpts posted here?
  10. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It’s hard firing ‘good’ employees. It’s remarkably easy firing not so good employees. I’ve done both. 1,000,000% we don’t have the whole story. And yet -
  11. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    BOTH are Elon. It’s just the most amazing coincidence that so many participants disappeared for green days since ER and then just as suddenly reappear for a red day.
  12. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That’s the way you want to play this? Are you sure? Even after one of your buddies tried to dig his way out by pointing out TSLA is up significantly since ER call and that today most everything is red.
  13. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You crazy. 🤪 I think it’s pretty reasonable for shareholders to: A) know the company they’re investing in beyond the most superficial level B) wait a hot second before jumping to conclusions C) sell if they don’t like or agree with what’s going on at said company
  14. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You know that Elon doesn’t believe in chain of command. Right? You know there are no manager/exec offices at Tesla, no closed doors. That he requires departments to work together not separately and on their own. Right? You also know that his view of managers and up are as facilitators for...
  15. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So they won’t build where they can’t do prefab (fill in whatever punctuation works for you).
  16. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It’s magic! A whisper of media negativity, a possibility of a red ticket day, and it returns. Absolutely has to be just a coincidence.
  17. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It’s magic! A whisper of media negativity, a possibility of a red ticket day, and it returns. Absolutely has to be just a coincidence.
  18. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Wait, what!? You mean there’s demand again? Like miraculously just appeared? 🤯 But I was promised Chinese demand was all dried up and absolutely no cars were put on boats the first three weeks of the quarter. Zip. Zero. Nada.
  19. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Triple dog dare you to infinity. You’ll note I’ve never made a prediction and I can’t actually remember Moonie making one either. How would you prefer me to tell you I don’t believe you and think you’re talking bs? I don’t believe you were long, that you timed selling perfectly, that you went...
  20. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It looks like I may get the ‘Try Better Next Time’ award. 😔 Either the first 100m shares and fakies was enough to reposition for a bit, or the tail got away and is dragging the dog into the street. However, there’s still a chance one of those Waymos runs over the tail and changes the outcome...
  21. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That’s not at all how Elon thinks. It’s not how he operates.
  22. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Again with the obtuseness. We absolutely know the technology is catching up because we factually know what the first attempt involved and the results, what the second attempt involved and the results, what the third attempt involved and the results etc… because they told us and many of us have...
  23. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    ‘Hard’ is not defined solely or even primarily by ‘time’. When all is said and done, we’ve no idea how Elon or anyone else at Tesla involved in it all will view The 9 Circles Of Production Hell vs solving FSD vs the endless list of other solved problems. To date, Elon still views the early...
  24. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I can be patient and wait for either my ‘Told You So’ or ‘You Missed It By That Much’ award.
  25. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    🤦‍ How is long term not so rosy? The whole point of Tesla is to help EVERYONE. There is no losing here. You of all people should understand what winning and losing looks like for this planet.
  26. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t try and jam it on your foot. K? 🤣😂 No need to project. 🙄 Don’t believe you. No company before Tesla ever produced just EVs. No new car company managed to not go bankrupt in a century. No car company ever invented and deployed their own fueling network...
  27. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We’ll see. I think they’ll want to try and hamstring it below $190 today to give themselves time to reposition. But we have seen it get away from their control a time or two. No doubt I’d love to see that. The party has begun.
  28. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Stale thinking. Boxed thinking. Static thinking. Maybe Tesla helps make Baidu better. Maybe people simply learn how to use Baidu maps. Maybe it all becomes something very different than you can currently imagine. Instead of looking for the ways it can’t work, look for the ways it can work...
  29. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Regardless of how things are exactly worded - because there’s definitely some ‘maybe - for sure’ going on, there’s a hole in the dike. It may trickle water for a while or burst wide open at any second. *manic laughter*
  30. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Don’t be obtuse. It’s simply a factual observation being made. There’s literally over a decade of evidence on this forum of a certain segment of the population coming here to boast when the SP is being artificially depressed, who then summarily vanish when the SP is being allowed to run. Yes...
  31. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We’ll see what happens when market opens but I have a feeling $190 is the line in the sand today. It got over it briefly before being stuffed down. Regardless, the tail is in full control today.
  32. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Ah, yet another of those impossible feats attained. 🤣😂 Will you (general and/or specific) learn this time or not? I’m going to bet not.
  33. Krugerrand

    Driving without seatbelt.

    Are you sure this isn’t another NHTSA requirement forced on Tesla and thus on owners?
  34. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What an interesting rewrite of history.
  35. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Like raise your hand if you weren’t here or aware of the day TSLA literally dropped from $900ish to $600ish almost instantly? Pre any splits I bet @Artful Dodger has the date seared into his mind. The dog couldn’t have walked a straight line that day if it was in the equivalent of a cattle...
  36. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    😂🤣😂🤣 Have you ever watched your fellow man drive!? If we’re so good at it, why are their dents and scratches on so many vehicles. Why do people curb their vehicles so often. Why are people always needing assistance; lane assistance, sensors, backup cameras with lines, seatbelts - the list of...
  37. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Seems an odd or newbie question considering we know for a fact the tail wags the dog. TSLA has often been responsible for having 50%+ of the entire options market. One ticker carrying half or more of the whole options market. Seems that’s how the system should work, huh? Then we’re going to...
  38. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla never set out to dominate any market. It was created to spur on the world. It some ways that’s happened. In others not so much. The path has wandered a bit; the goal’s the same.
  39. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    One word: options That’s the why of it all.
  40. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Um - Swedish? Advisor. Isn’t he on a sympathy strike against Tesla? Oh, I see. He’s driving it in Germany so he doesn’t have to abide by Swedish sympathy strikes. 😉
  41. Krugerrand

    seattle crash

    It’s the world we live in. People aren’t interested in facts, and the media knows sensationalism and negativity get them the clicks.
  42. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My ‘backing a cause’ is ‘investing’ in YOUR descendants. I already ‘backed my other cause’ by not having descendants. You’re welcome on both fronts.
  43. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I know people disagree with me and/or think it’s funny that I’d suggest they don’t understand. Don’t care. There’s a reason I don’t lose my mind or fall for the bs like so many others. Ever. Why even if the numbers are less than ideal, I don’t panic. Elon is the key to it all. He’s the...
  44. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Nope. It had to happen this way. Why do you think he went to all the trouble to protect the company in the first place. It’s not about him being there 24/7; he can’t and he won’t be. You’re thinking like you. You need to think like Elon to understand. That’s most everyone’s problem...
  45. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Relax. 🧘 You don’t even own shares anymore. It’s all good. I understand that’s not going to satisfy your brain, but I’m telling you, it’s under control. Sit back and watch the master class Elon’s giving.
  46. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Thank you for the shout out and acknowledgment. It’s appreciated. Let’s try and remember next time not to lose our cool when everything Tesla is being systematically attacked. I hold out no hope, having seen this circus dozens of times, but maybe one day I’ll be pleasantly surprised. I have...
  47. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think part of the problem is people thinking it needs to be perfect. That it needs to never make a mistake. That’s ridiculous. It literally drives like people now, mistakes and all. The end goal simply only needs to be: better than people in general by ‘fill in a number’. I’m just hoping...
  48. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So not to rub salt in that wound, but to rub salt in it; I sent in my insurance and payment two days ago. Any day now. Heck, probably any minute now. 😉
  49. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    He’s not wrong that they should. Will they all understand. Absolutely not. And that’s okay. They can carry on being oblivious. We have people here who don’t understand what’s happening with FSD. All they can do is point out what doesn’t work for them. My car recently drove me hundreds of...