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Tesla likely uses Mapbox's Navigation engine. It may be customized in some way but routes would be Mapbox's fault/credit.

It is technically a left turn lane from the highway and NOT a merge into trafic lane. In GA it is illegal (and I bet FL too) to pull into a left turn lane unless you are turning left off the road it is on. In fact there is a YouTuber named Jeebs who's girlfriend or wife pulled into one and got a...

v10.2 was BY FAR the most exciting FSD EVER. 🤔 I go back every now in then when having a NIGHTMARE. 🤣

Yes it has been seen before several times but always attributed to either a software glitch or someone who traded or bought a different Tesla and switched on their TeslaFi account. ;) But NEVER a software downgrade.

How about privacy and no awkward conversations plus no pressure to tip and NO tipping at all. So you get a known point to point price.

Tesla will have an Optimus primed and ready to clean and detail every car after rides. 🤣 🤣

There you are trying to hook us up again. 🤣 🤣 🤣 My REAL Canadian girl friend isn't having it.

I'll bet these are people who had a subscription and let it lapse. This is THE SAME as it always was. People that let their subscriptions lapse get moved up and off the "Early Access". Nothing new about this.

Anything is possible......except maybe FSDtester#1 being correct. 😲 🤣 For nearly 3 years now a many have predicted we would catch up or reman even, including myself (don't think we are all buddies 😍now because we can make the same mistake 🥴) and it has never happened. So I'm resigned that...

We are being kept of 24.3.25 because when 12.4.x comes out it will be on 24.3.x or 24.9.x and if we move to 24.14.x we will be past it.

First some info: v11.1 UI version (unrelated) 24.3.25 Software/Firmware version 12.3.6 FSDS version You have a fundamental misunderstanding. FSDS 12.3.6 only works on city streets (even says this in the one sentence Release Notes). When you drive on the highway it switches back to the V11...

Strange but I doubt many states would approve this. But regardless I bet my last 🍩 Tesla will NOT do this. Any takers? 🤣 This seems so anti-Tesla. They will likely follow the standard L4 autonomous tradition and start with safety drivers. Or if they only make a controller less car they will be...

Looking not likely and going by Elon's latest posts probably not going to be in 12.5 either. So could be at least 12.6 or so.

Just a funny. Used to be a decent runner and in 2 races, ½ marathon and a 10K I managed to came in 4th place (my best placements). 4th place in a race is actually 1st in last place. 🤔 🤣 EDIT: Weirdly sometimes when I'm running by brain thinks I have FSD engaged and I have to force myself back...

Not sure how that could be legal since that is the same as L0 driving. Seems if in an accident or moving violation the driver would need to be in the car since it is NOT autonomous and the same as any other car being driven by a person. How does the police see the driver's license for instance?

You are so correct but as usually you missed a word than needs to be inserted at the proper place. A$$ 😲 🤣

Wait your an accountant and ALWAYS use the wrong 1s at the wrong time?????😲 How does that add up especially if you don't use them? 🤔 🤣 🤣

Remote assistance can ONLY work with L4. L3 REQUIRES someone in the driver's seat ready to take over and physically and legally drive the the car.

The classic conundrum: Latest FSD or latest firmware/software/features but you can't have both (at least not for long like the Holiday update or the way it is now until 12.4.x is released to us "backwards' firmware users).

Well hopefully 12.4 will show up on TeslaFi by next week (if those employees weren't fired) and it will finally be "next week" from last week. Almost a record for Musk IF it happens but we will have to wait and see to believe. Interesting that we may see highways implemented on 12.5. Of course...

No, we will be kept on 24.3.25 until 12.4.x is released to us. 12.3.6 is now the new STANDARD/proven FSD and we will move on to test 12.4.x when it is available and people on 24.14.x will be "stuck" on 12.3.6 because they are past the software version we will be on, hopefully 24.9.x and not...

Because we are ALWAYS behind testing a new FSD version to keep the NEW version more exclusive and NOT available to the masses until it is proven. We have been behind almost always since 10.2. So this is not new and the way it has always been.

Yeah, my money is on lapsed subscriptions. Also a BETTER question is when is "next week" in Elon speak so we see 12.4 show up to start more open employee testing (if they aren't fired). I'm betting we get updated to 24.9.x for 12.4.x but hope we get a 12.3.7 in the mean time to tide us over...

So I stopped seeing Waymos driving around ATL a couple of weeks ago. Seemed odd to Map and run since maps are only as good as the current map. Was wondering what the plan is mapping and the leaving to come back at a latter time? So now it looks like Waymo is moving away from HD Maps??? Is Elon...

What is the fun in that and also you can't test to know what it will or will not do. ;)inquiring minds (and even dense [although that sounds like a good thing 🤔 ] like mine) want to know. 🤣

Watched the Waymo video of it obeying police directing traffic and even complex hand signals in the Waymo thread. Very impressive. Had a chance for some hand signals this morning and was a basic fail. At an all way Stop signalman was holding up our lane (car in front so no test). When our lanes...

Would need to be L4 for this. L3 requires you to take control within a few seconds of being asked so you need to be in the driver's seat using your laptop.

Elon's "brilliant" childish obtuse move paying off. 10 (all the L2s) of 30 are down at Atlantic Station and have been for a few days. Guess we need to call Electrify America now for repair.

Actually we NEED 12.4 to show up next week in a couple of (employee) cars on TeslaFi as proof it is starting and 12.3.7 released to entertain us in the slow 12.4.x rollout meantime. 😲 🤔

Actually it does a good job in parking lots considering it hasn't been trained on them yet. Parking lots (aka ASS & Banish) is coming soon but NOT here yet. In parking lots it is "figuring out" how to drive based on City Street training data. Also I live over a gigantic parking deck (about 1¼...

Deep Rain™ 🤣 🤣 AI happened 5 years ago because "rain is deep". This tread is out of date. Deep Rain Deep Bright lights Deep Eye tracking Deep $hit

So "much more complex" traffic than LA and San Francisco? Do tell where this is? Mumbai 🤔 🤣

I have one of these. 🤣

Thanks I see it right across from me. Can you open the tonneau cover. I'm banging on the side panes with a hammer but it won't open.

To add my 2¢ and avoiding all the nuances. V11 drives like a jerky robot following discreet hard "if this then do that" rules. V12 drives in a much more natural and "fluid" manner and while not perfect it is ∞ smother than V11.

Actually I live in Atlantic Station BUT I can't charge at home since my home is in a high-rise and car is in the SUPER HUGE Atlantic Station parking deck (also the Superchargers are in the parking deck). However I do have free charging at work and at the gym I go to. So I don't use the...

Damn v12 can be impressive. Today went on the east side and ran down and up the Eastside Beltline then on my way home I looped the long way and went south meandering through Midtown and into Downtown. Then went over to Olympic Park and through GA Tech campus (unfortunately not too my students...

At least school is about to be out giving a little more time. But yeah this should come near the top and above hand signals.

This is incorrect. Figurative analogy of the post I quoted. [newbie wanting to buy a Tesla] Looked at a red Tesla and told it adds $2000 to the price. What colors don't cost extra since I couldn't care less about the color and just want to get the best price.

It will happen BUT only whenever Tesla "decides" to put you in the queue. So far not that many cars have received 24.14.x so you are still in the majority. New integrated updates like this ebb and flow and take some time to test on all hardware combinations for small bugs. Likely why we had...

If you unsubscribe you will likely be updated to the newer software and no longer in the most current FSDS release.

Ben well covered. FSD Hasn't been train at all on School Zones, or School buses or Police or Ambulance or etc.......... Hopefully 12.4 will at least start with some of these. Elon stated they were no longer compute constrained indicating that they should start tackling all these.

....and I have been using it since day 1 and 10.2 and that doesn't mean $hit to Tesla. You could buy 20 Teslas and you would get treated like any other person. You could be a super loyal employee, work like a dog for Tesla for years and Tesla would fire you like nothing. For good or bad Tesla...

There are ALWAYS regressions. 🤔 🤣 Just keep them to a minimum and NO safety regressions. Since 12.4 is supposedly all newly trained (Elon speak that could mean literally almost ANYTHING) it will likely be a slow rollout and be several versions before many of us get it. Bet most of us will...

My speculation from yesterday: "For us if offered 24.14.x I would NOT install. We should wait and see what happens with 12.4.x. I bet it will be on 24.9.x (or stay on 24.3.x) and 12.3.6 will be the "new" standard FSDS replacing 11.4.9."

Not in GA (and I bet in most other states too). It is the following: Dashed line: Freely cross Solid White Line: Discouraged from crossing but NOT illegal Double White Lines: Illegal to cross

24.8.x does NOT have v12. You must update when offered to 24.14.x to get v12.

Waymo uses standard Jaguar's and are NOT ADA compliant. I believe the next version vehicle will be.

About damn.......no make that WAY past damn time as in 6 weeks. For us if offered 24.14.x I would NOT install. We should wait and see what happens with 12.4.x. I bet it will be on 24.9.x (or stay on 24.3.x) and 12.3.6 will be the "new" standard FSDS replacing 11.4.9.

With the Supercharger team of course. 😭