CarlK
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As a 1 month old P85D owner if the 100/105D came out anytime this year it would really upset me. I waited a long time for the P85D thinking I was going to get the King of the run.
One more reason we need P105D.
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As a 1 month old P85D owner if the 100/105D came out anytime this year it would really upset me. I waited a long time for the P85D thinking I was going to get the King of the run.
wk057 said:...That'd be about 6C, or about 485kW nominal for an 85kWh pack...
As someone who is about to buy a P85D, I really am irked by this entire thing.
If 2.8 is possible with just a bigger battery, cool. But I have a feeling that it's going to require beefier wiring and all kind of other small things. It makes me really anxious to order, but I need to order soon because of the sales tax exemption.
Sucks. This should be incredibly exciting, but I keep being nagged by the thought that I "barely" miss the cutoff. 120k is a LOT of money to me, but coming from a P85, I literally can't drive anything else, and I need a car to replace my wrecked Tesla
There's a huge difference knowing that in a few years I can upgrade to a 100 KW battery, versus just missing out altogether. The appeal of the Model S has always been the "constant improvements" of the car that I can take advantage of, but thus far nothing has really been further from the truth.
You'll definitely have no sympathy for the guys ordering the 2.8s version of the Model S thenYou're ordering a car that goes 0-60 in 3.1 seconds. I have no sympathy for your issue. None! lol
As a 1 month old P85D owner if the 100/105D came out anytime this year it would really upset me. I waited a long time for the P85D thinking I was going to get the King of the run.
Unless Tesla pre-announces the P100D coming out then they will be just as shocked and have the same right to be upset. If Tesla does pre-announce then of course they'll kill off sales of the P85D for the 6 months or so after the announcement.
Well, Telsa could pre-announce the 100+ variant & it's pricing without killing sales. The only way to do this and avoid the Osborne Effect would be pricing the 100 above the existing 85[D], and leaving the 85[D] available even after the 100+ model is released.
Has Tesla ever pre-announced anything after the Model S actually went into production? I will continue to state that I think everyone looking at why they would or wouldn't introduce a new battery based on what affect it would have on 85 sales, 85D sales, or P85D sales is looking at this from the wrong side. The one model we know is coming with absolute certainty is the model X. So I will say, again, that the question is what size battery will most likely be coming on the high-end Model X? Whatever that battery is will most certainly become the new standard for the Model S, and it will be because it's what's needed for the X, not because of how it will make any current Model S owners, P85D or not, feel.Well, Telsa could pre-announce the 100+ variant & it's pricing without killing sales. The only way to do this and avoid the Osborne Effect would be pricing the 100 above the existing 85[D], and leaving the 85[D] available even after the 100+ model is released.
Using an NEC-style 25% margin gives me a constant current draw of about 19A possible before popping fuses. That'd be about 6C, or about 485kW nominal for an 85kWh pack.
Wouldn't 6C for a 85kWh pack be 510kW? (85 x 6 = 510 )
Well, Telsa could pre-announce the 100+ variant & it's pricing without killing sales. The only way to do this and avoid the Osborne Effect would be pricing the 100 above the existing 85[D], and leaving the 85[D] available even after the 100+ model is released.
How about home Solar Panel announcement?
That would be more along SolarCity's lines I think ... btw I have been wondering a bit that the home battery is being offered with a Tesla badge and not a SolarCity badge as it would fit in much better with the kind of products SC offers. Tesal has built quite bit of street cred over the past few years with battery powered products, maybe they want to cash in on that.How about home Solar Panel announcement?
Anything remotely as big as a new 100 KWh battery would be the subject of its own tweets and press conference, not slipped in before this one or bundled with the expected home storage solution. They had a five day tease and huge press conference to announce a stupid navigation upgrade, no way they just slide some major battery or performance upgrade out there as a "warm up" no matter what goofy tweet comes from Elon.
I would have agreed with you up until I saw how the 70D was dropped on the market unexpectedly. It seems Tesla's way of handling a battery change/upgrade is to just announce it unexpectedly to ensure people don't hold off on orders up into the event launch. Why did the 70D not have its own tweets or special event/press conference? I can see the navigation tease being great for marketing and not affecting existing orders, but dropping a product upgrade would likely be handled the way the 70D was.