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It's pretty obvious that Tesla are either going to have to (a) gradually raise the monthly fee or (b) drop the purchase price for FSD, since anyone can see that the purchase price simply doesnt make sense at the moment.This will be like Starlink. Low entry price, then they will raise it over time.
If you want the locked in price, you buy it but at this new monthly pricing and the fact that FSD doesn't follow you from car to car makes buying it a losing proposition for now.
My takeaway is TSLA stock is facing headwinds due to competition, aging designs, over capacity, surplus inventory, need for an M2 release date, FSD's broken promise, and Musk's sophomoric politics and eccentric behavior tarnishing TSLA's brand. The company needs definitive ways to boost its bottom line in 2024. FSD licensing may provide a stream that props the stock up in the near term. I'm more impressed by FSD than I expected but still consider it a novelty. I predicted TSLA would do this in another thread at $49 a month. I think the lower price would attract exponentially more subscriptions and revenue.My take on this price reduction is that it's still part of the ploy to get more AI training data. Same reason they're giving everyone a free month. They need seventeen trillion miles of driving data.
My takeaway is TSLA stock is facing headwinds due to competition, aging designs, over capacity, surplus inventory, need for an M2 release date, FSD's broken promise, and Musk's sophomoric politics and eccentric behavior tarnishing TSLA's brand. The company needs definitive ways to boost its bottom line in 2024. FSD licensing may provide a stream that props the stock up in the near term. I'm more impressed by FSD than I expected but still consider it a novelty. I predicted TSLA would do this in another thread at $49 a month. I think the lower price would attract exponentially more subscriptions and revenue.
FSD/AP is per profile. Create a new profile with FSD turned off and switch profile on the go. It sucks that getting out of FSD also disables TACC and hopefully this was an oversight and will be fixed but for now, that's an option.The inability to use TACC alone makes this a non-starter for me. Yes, this can be gotten around using two profiles. And while that is fine when evaluating, it is not a good option for mainstream use.
Create a new profile with FSD turned off and switch profile on the go.
Can you recount one time where it saved your life, thanks.I'm not mad about paying 12K it is worth every penny now in how many times it saved my life and also how well rested I am
What makes it worth it even at $99?Fsd 12 isn't perfect but it's good enough for the $99 price. At $199, I didn't think it was worth it.
It's both. Make money and collect more training data. Killing two birds with one stone.
How has it saved your life many times? If anything, I have saved FSDs life many times.I'm not mad about paying 12K it is worth every penny now in how many times it saved my life and also how well rested I am
Not a Kool-Aid drinker, I swear! Been using this new iteration of FSD for a couple of weeks now and it is very useful (driving around south of Tucson mostly). So, yeah, for me anyway it's worth $99 for a month's use on those occasions the system would be of utility, mostly on a road-trip.What makes it worth it even at $99?
Maybe it’s location dependent as I always need to take over. I like the tech but becomes more of a hassle for me to use.Not a Kool-Aid drinker, I swear! Been using this new iteration of FSD for a couple of weeks now and it is very useful (driving around south of Tucson mostly). So, yeah, for me anyway it's worth $99 for a month's use on those occasions the system would be of utility, mostly on a road-trip.
Rich
The good news is that AP1 is still superior to the current cars' behavior on the highway where most of the value of ADAS exists. I'd retrofit AP1 in a heartbeat if it were possible to get back good following behavior, radar reassurance in poor visibility, and a radical reduction in nags.Not super happy for myself. Happy for latecomers I guess. I've had a model x with AP1 which was forgotten and two FSD cars. It appears I bought tickets to Mars for future passengers...
This morning-Can you recount one time where it saved your life, thanks.
The interest earned is taxable as regular income so you likely won’t be clearing 600 year.So the choice is to buy FSD for a one time fee of $12,000, or pay $99/month. Let's see - $12,000 earning 5% provides $600/year in interest, or $50/month. So Tesla is saying that I can keep my $12,000 in the bank (or where ever I choose), currently earn 5% in an insured money market fund, and net pay $49 to have FSD, correct?
I feel badly for the early adapters who paid the full price, but on the other hand as a Tesla Model Y owner who has seen the price of my car now $16,000 less than the cost paid in 2022, it seems as if Tesla is trying to "give back" something to prior owners without addressing it directly.
I, for one, appreciate the gesture, and will subscribe going forward when my trial ends at the end of the month.
Tesla should make an elongated model Y, maybe a little bit in the style of a shooting break, with real three-row seats.