Recell: certified replacement battery packs for low-range/bricked Model S

[NV Ray]

I would like to hear that story. How old are we talking about?

Comment (from BMS_U029 Facebook Group) from former Tesla technician now operating an independent repair shop in Vancouver, Canada (Factor E)

 

[Droschke]

But then, I've heard that at Tesla no longer makes older model Tesla BMS boards and are in short supply in house. That's another story.

Disseminating inaccurate facts is inappropriate.

 

[NV Ray]

Disseminating inaccurate facts is inappropriate.

Disseminating inaccurate allegations of disseminating inaccurate facts is also inappropriate.

See me posts #80 and #81 for my sources. Prove me wrong. Specifically former Tesla Techs comment in my post #81. Show me your proof these comments (which pertain to older 2015 Model S's) in post #81 are not true.

 

[Droschke]

Disseminating inaccurate allegations of disseminating inaccurate facts is also inappropriate.

See me posts #80 and #81 for my sources. Prove me wrong. Specifically former Tesla Techs comment in my post #81. Show me your proof these comments (which pertain to older 2015 Model S's) in post #81 are not true.

Nowadays, it is quite common for individuals to come across claims on the Internet and subsequently share it by stating, "I've been informed that Tesla is no longer producing older model Tesla BMS boards and they are currently scarce within the company".

 

[1PT1 GEE]

I have first hand knowledge, you need to go touch grass

 

[hydro]

I have first hand knowledge, you need to go touch grass View attachment 1025154

What does it mean, i.e. if the BMS fails and no used BMS can be found, the car has to be junked or is there other ways to go around that issue?

 

[davewill]

What does it mean, i.e. if the BMS fails and no used BMS can be found, the car has to be junked or is there other ways to go around that issue?

It means the Tesla will have problems refurbishing packs that have the BMS go bad, and that will reduce the number of refurb packs they have available for warranty replacements. They might have to resort to replacing bad packs with more modern versions of their battery packs.

I suppose it could also hinder Tesla's ability to recycle these packs for industrial applications, although it's possible that they could do that some other way.

This could also trickle down to third party repair shops if good BMS boards become scarce. Once again, the only recourse might be replacing the bad pack with a newer battery pack, leaving a surplus of bad packs that need BMS boards.

Of course, it's an ill wind indeed that blows nobody good. Someone who has one of these packs go out for any other reason, so that they have a good BMS, might find third party repair cheap and easy.

 

[brainhouston]

I'm sure something got lost in translation here but i'm pretty positive Tesla will just make new BMS pcbs backward compatible to whatever is needed or just update firmware/software to accept new ones.
Parts discontinuation happens in corporate businesses all the time n they just adopt to new parts...

 

[hydro]

I'm sure something got lost in translation here but i'm pretty positive Tesla will just make new BMS pcbs backward compatible to whatever is needed or just update firmware/software to accept new ones.
Parts discontinuation happens in corporate businesses all the time n they just adopt to new parts...

Thanks for the important clarification. Have a great day

 

[meomyo]

What does it mean, i.e. if the BMS fails and no used BMS can be found, the car has to be junked or is there other ways to go around that issue?

That would be terrible

 

[davewill]

Tesla starts offering LFP battery retrofits for earlier Model 3 under warranty

Tesla is starting to offer LFP battery pack retrofits for earlier Model 3 vehicles as it starts running out of...

electrek.co

Several Tesla owners are now reporting that Tesla is offering them a LFP battery pack instead when getting a battery replacement under warranty.

It appears to be primarily due to Tesla not having enough parts for the old battery pack with nickel-based cells and similar energy capacity. Therefore, it makes for them to start offering the newer pack.

However, the LFP pack is heavier and Tesla owners have to agree for the automaker to also upgrade their suspension:

 

[MP3Mike]

Tesla starts offering LFP battery retrofits for earlier Model 3 under warranty

Tesla is starting to offer LFP battery pack retrofits for earlier Model 3 vehicles as it starts running out of...

electrek.co

Just to clarify this really only applies to Model 3 SR and Model 3 SR+ vehicles with a failed pack. (So, doesn't really belong in this Model S forum/thread.)

 

[NV Ray]

Just to clarify this really only applies to Model 3 SR and Model 3 SR+ vehicles with a failed pack. (So, doesn't really belong in this Model S forum/thread.)

Could this also apply to Model Ys?

 

[MP3Mike]

Could this also apply to Model Ys?

I don't know, were any Model Ys made with a small 2170 based pack? Maybe the Model Y SR RWDs? (I think they were only shipped for a couple months at the beginning of 2021.)

 

[brainhouston]

Technically Tesla could offer LFP (lower range) to any 3/Y out of warranty cars as a cheaper replacement cause the pack will physically fit
Tesla will have to modify software to support it
But i doubt they will ever develop LFP solution for legacy S/X cause it will require either cell or pack redesign n they already moved on to diff packs with refresh models...

 

[Dramelow]

I wrote this in a different thread but I saw this and thought I would share it here too. I also will share this thread with Recell to see if they might join and answer any more questions.
I had an amazing experience with them they, were faster than they said they would be (7-10) days they answered every question I asked, usually within a couple hours. They also would send regular updates on the progress and told me what was actually wrong with the battery. They helped find the cheapest shipping back to me. I have only had it back since Saturday, everything is working perfectly so far and would recommend them to anyone that can't afford the 20000 for a new battery.

Hello can you tell me how your battery has performed? I had my 2013 model s towed there this morning

 

[Dramelow]

As a follow up to this, I did send my 2013 85 S to Recell, and I must say I'm delighted. They dropped the battery, replaced the faulty module as well as the main fuse and contactors, found and fixed an issue with the battery management board on a different module, balanced it all up and thoroughly tested it. They didn't charge (forgive the pun) any extra for the additional problem they found. Communication was outstanding, I've never had anything like it before. including a two year warranty, the cost was about $7.5k. It's a shame that they are so far from me (they are in San Antonio, I'm in Seattle) so shipping costs added up but Id HIGHLY recommend them!

How has the battery performed? Any issues?

 

[NV Ray]

How has the battery performed? Any issues?

Recell has had many satisfied customers.

Just like if you got a reman pack from Tesla, any reman pack's performance is a crapshoot. Remember you're getting a pack that could have batteries, hardware, etc that are 10 years old.

The only one's making new replacement packs are Tesla. Those packs are the only ones that will get you original EPA rated miles and faster Supercharging speeds.

Are you getting the optional 2 year warranty from Recell for an extra $2500? With Tesla you get a 4 yr/50k mile warranty bundled in the price.

 

[islandbayy]

Hello can you tell me how your battery has performed? I had my 2013 model s towed there this morning

At the 1 year mark in my 2012 P85, going strong. If memory serves me correctly, it has a higher kWh capacity than my 90 currently holds (after degradation!)

 

[Recell]

some quick notes here:

some components may be as much as 10 years old, many are not. More importantly, all pack components are vefieid to factory spec and every pack is rated and certified for range and capacity.