Well no, they can't do as they please, because I own the car, not them.Again if it’s salvaged car they can do as they please.
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Well no, they can't do as they please, because I own the car, not them.Again if it’s salvaged car they can do as they please.
I never heard anywhere that it's a read only EEPROM (any link to sources?), and if it's read only, how can they change it remotely to disable supercharging?
Yes it works... until it stops working. Tesla has the policy of disabling 3rd party DC charging since 02/2020, but they starting enforcing it very recently. Just wait for it.As for other types others mentioned CHAdeMO still works.
This discussion pointed to a Rich Rebuilds video that tested it still worked even with Supercharging disabled in a Model 3:Salvage fast charge
Hello to all forum users. Can anybody explain me from a legal point of view, why does DC charging is banned on salvage vehicles, not SC, but even CHADEMO. Why does Tesla don't leave legal ability to charge my vehicle? I think is just not right. Thanks!teslamotorsclub.com
From the Setec CCS adapter, we know the two protocols function differently (which is why Model 3 is limited to CHAdeMO speeds using the Setec Adapter).
Actually this is a very good point, but most likely you'll have to sign some predatory clauses in order to install the supercharger. On the other hand, buying salvage is free from predatory clauses!If I own a Business and pay for a supercharger is it mine or Tesla's
Are you referring to this tweet?Yes, follow the link in the first post and all the discussion by @wk057
Do you have a link to that policy? In the previous discussions on this, I only heard hearsay that third party charging is also disabled, but there are others that say that is not true and there are plenty of counter examples.Yes it works... until it stops working. Tesla has the policy of disabling 3rd party DC charging since 02/2020, but they starting enforcing it very recently. Just wait for it.
OTP (one time programmable). think 'fuses'.I never heard anywhere that it's a read only EEPROM (any link to sources?), and if it's read only, how can they change it remotely to disable supercharging?
But OTP chips are programmed at factory. I wouldn't imagine they have a OTP chip that isn't programmed yet that is just waiting from them to use to disable supercharging function. Tesla doesn't have that kind of foresight (or they would have designed the supercharger protocol from the start not to rely on in car authorization).OTP (one time programmable). think 'fuses'.
I have been suggesting they burn the fsd license into the car so that even they cant take it away again. (crickets....)
there are secure write operations that can be done without special programmer devices.But OTP chips are programmed at factory. I wouldn't imagine they have a OTP chip that isn't programmed yet that is just waiting from them to use to disable supercharging function. Tesla doesn't have that kind of foresight (or they would have designed the supercharger protocol from the start not to rely on in car authorization).
In this thread I uploaded the tech note explaining Tesla's policy.Do you have a link to that policy? In the previous discussions on this, I only heard hearsay that third party charging is also disabled, but there are others that say that is not true and there are plenty of counter examples.
Edit: Nevermind, I did a quick search previously and didn't catch it, but this line is much more restrictive than the similar line about the inspection:In this thread I uploaded the tech note explaining Tesla's policy.
Enabling Supercharging on salvage Tesla Model X
Hello, Does anyone have a contact for someone that can enable supercharging on a 2017 Tesla Model X. The car has been Tesla Certified and Autopilot is still enabled. I would also like the car to get all the latest updates (not sure if it currently is getting that or not). I am in the Los...teslamotorsclub.com
Yes, I started to see reports of people with 3rd party DC charging deactivated. I guess it's starting to roll out slowly, but it will eventually reach everybody.So far they seem to not have done that for 3rd party charging (or did you find examples where they did?). Perhaps it's a line they might not want to cross, as there really isn't any justification given they don't own those third party networks.
Certainly I wouldn't recommend you to work with a salvage car, as you don't look savvy enough, nor seem interested in learning (no offense meant)...Lesson is don’t buy salvage crap bc you are cheap and trying to save money.
Our government is the worth corporation on earth. You are funny.eventually, tesla may piss off the wrong person or persons and legal changes may come.
I hope they do. they are essentially a 'cowboy company', getting away with quite a lot of abuses and no one is really calling them on it (legally).
they will only be able to do that so much longer and that's it. when it comes, no one knows, but its clear that this kind of customer-abusive behavior will end one way or another. it would be nice if they did it the 'easy way' instead of the 'hard' legally forced way.
but this is why we have government. because companies, when left entirely to their own, will screw customers, employees and anyone else they can. its the american way, afterall (sigh).
its reasonable, imho, to charge a fee to inspect a car after its been fixed. but to permanently disable features - that's pretty illegal sounding, to me (ianal). I hope tesla gets beaten up on this, eventually. I hate bullies and tesla feels a lot like a big bully, these days. they need to be knocked down a few levels, and perhaps try on a coat of humility once in a while.
Yeah, because everyone does that every day. Taking their cars around the globe 24/7.Certainly I wouldn't recommend you to work with a salvage car, as you don't look savvy enough, nor seem interested in learning (no offense meant)...
...but I also really hope you don't have to relocate in another country after investing in an expensive Tesla, because an exported Tesla is also an unsupported vehicle, and you can lose a hell of a lot of money by selling here/buying there (specially if you move from the US to anywhere else, where Teslas are more expensive).
Again, other manufacturers don't own their primary charging network. They have plausible deniability by saying that "there was no way to know if it was the salvage car or the 3rd party charging network that caused the issue."Other EV automakers don't have any problems with salvage cars. No charger ever blowed up because a salvage car was using it. This is a cheap excuse they use to hide the real reasons behind their policy.
Well, Tesla banned me from purchasing another Tesla after vehicle buybackI wonder if there will come a point where Tesla will stop taking vehicle trades