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so, the six people with V9, are they enjoying it already?
I'd reduce my holdings in TSLA if Thiel was chosen. Ugh.
dqd88
Member
Thiel is very smart and friends with Elon but I think too polarizing re politics. Reid Hoffman would be better choice (or Larry Page or Sergey Brin), all friends of Elon
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Dangleitus
Member
Schadenfreude from SA:
thedyslexicephelant
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So nothing came of the suit. There is no justice in the world.
georgefelix75
Comments238 | + Follow
Agree $20M is nothing compared to the loses from his antics. It was deliberate and willful. Make a joke out of the SEC.
samdehne
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The SEC proves that it is in cahoots with Tesla/Musk and the ilk of evil.
When you see what was done to Skilling and Madoff.. doesn't this demand
the highest punishment possible.. times 5?
Skil and Mad were peanuts in comparison to the broken laws here...
Diesel, Contributor
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In other words Elon Musk gets away with fraud.
Well, what did you expect? In America if you are wealthy and powerful you are a god who is beyond law and no one can touch you. If you want to become untouchable, beyond law and a god in America, just become rich.
Thirst 4 Yield
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Money always wins
412Bob
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Cannot believe the SEC settled for such a small amount. They will certainly have earned any criticism of their lack of effectiveness that undoubtedly will ensue.
uptick_rule_now
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shows the SEC does not want to work criminal cases. how anyone that evil and corrupt was allowed to buy their way out of this offense is a slap in the face of Justice. at least we still have the BK filling coming soon to take stock to zero
To be fair, many of them are consoling themselves with the "inevitable" DOJ caseSurely the world will see "justice" when that happens!
Shorting based on an event is risky, im not so sure most shorts bet big on binary events like this. I know I don't. I am still on the insolvency bandwagon personally. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't going to consider long until q3. Nothing wrong with making some money on the way up, is there?
Yes they are, and the number should double tomorrow.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
LOL. I had to literally look in the Urban Dictionary to make sure I understood that
Poet laureate, perhaps?
possibly wise, but I will say of the paypal mafia, Peter is WINNING by far.. Palantir, Facebook Tilray, and more. He's figured something out and cashing in.
Management inside or board, maybe not so much.
I volunteered at Santa Barbara Tesla store today. You have to realize Santa Barbara is less than 100k people and not adjacent to any other towns. There were a handful of truckloads of all Tesla models arriving in addition to the many cars already there this morning. Mostly Model 3's were being delivered but some S's and X's as well. My guess around 45 to 50 cars delivered. I did not check all VIN's but I did notice one was 113,xxx. What amazed me the most, the sales showroom was packed all day with people buying cars. There must have been 6 to 8 sales people swamped the whole time. There is certainly no demand problem here.
I’m really disappointed that Musk settled. I think he had a strong case. But it would have taken a bunch of his time. So probably for the best...
As it's said... the smart shorts are the ones who start shorting a stock before everyone else does... and who get out before everyone else does. The question is timing.
I personally would never short TSLA, but I do adjust my exposure level based on how effectively I think good news can be FUDded down. And that, too, is about A) being right, and B) having good timing.
X Fan
Active Member
Meanwhile, in other auto industry news:
GM is recalling 3.3m autos in China due to a suspension defect and Honda is doing same with 220k Accords and Insights in the U.S. due to a software problem.
GM is recalling 3.3m autos in China due to a suspension defect and Honda is doing same with 220k Accords and Insights in the U.S. due to a software problem.
dqd88
Member
Schadenfreude from SA:
thedyslexicephelant
Comments19 | + Follow
So nothing came of the suit. There is no justice in the world.
georgefelix75
Comments238 | + Follow
Agree $20M is nothing compared to the loses from his antics. It was deliberate and willful. Make a joke out of the SEC.
samdehne
Comments1562 | + Follow
The SEC proves that it is in cahoots with Tesla/Musk and the ilk of evil.
When you see what was done to Skilling and Madoff.. doesn't this demand
the highest punishment possible.. times 5?
Skil and Mad were peanuts in comparison to the broken laws here...
Diesel, Contributor
Comments3420 | + Follow
In other words Elon Musk gets away with fraud.
Well, what did you expect? In America if you are wealthy and powerful you are a god who is beyond law and no one can touch you. If you want to become untouchable, beyond law and a god in America, just become rich.
Thirst 4 Yield
Comments312 | + Follow
Money always wins
412Bob
Comments161 | + Follow
Cannot believe the SEC settled for such a small amount. They will certainly have earned any criticism of their lack of effectiveness that undoubtedly will ensue.
uptick_rule_now
Comments1396 | + Follow
shows the SEC does not want to work criminal cases. how anyone that evil and corrupt was allowed to buy their way out of this offense is a slap in the face of Justice. at least we still have the BK filling coming soon to take stock to zero
deercreekvols
Comments12802 | + Follow
Reminds me of the "settlement" that Elizabeth Holmes was able to reach.
Resign as chairman but remain CEO. Got it.Nice work by the SEC. Collect the fine money and move on to the next case.Thanks for nothing.
Teddy Monster
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Musk got away with his crimes. This is unbelievable. He got away with it.
Jacjon0108
Comments433 | + Follow
Complete joke of punishment by SEC
Buddha1010
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I've lost respect for the SEC enforcement division. Looks like Elon played them for the wimps they are. Really sad.
The likelihood of a DoJ action is now nil. The rich, white and entitled ruling class wins again. Just like gravity, there's no escaping this truism.
To be fair, many of them are consoling themselves with the "inevitable" DOJ case
This is so joyous to see. May they lose everything. Too harsh? lol I'm actually a nice guy, but the shorts are just super pathetic and bizarre beings. They remind me of flat-earthers / Alex Jones types.
dqd88
Member
I think VW kind of short squeeze is unlikely to happen. The thought that TSLA will move up a lot really quick has hurt some aggressive longs. It's unfortunate, some of them are the strongest Elon supporters.
It's better to stay calm, add shares whenever I have extra cash, or accumulate cash for the next panic drop. For those who want to use leverage, buy long term calls when the market is filled with fear, don't use margin. This way nobody can force you to sell at a bad time.
10 years ago, SpaceX successfully launched their first tinny rocket - FH1. It was such a big joy, it's a big deal.
Look what they achieved in the following 10 years. Imagine what will happen in the next 10 years.
6 years ago, Tesla produced the first Model S. Look what they achieved in the following 6 years (in only 6 years!). Think what will happen in the next 10 years. I have no problem to keep adding shares, be it $100 or $400 a share.
NikeWings
Active Member
Thiel is a wallet, and has the connections to open it. He's learned a few things along the way but most drafts behind others. He is not an operator.....certainly not of a $50B enterprise.
Don't hold back, be selective, TSLA deserves amazing leadership.
Or it will Peter principle out very quickly.
Selling calls against your position would be a good move too, if you're wanting to lower adjusted share price and don't want to ACTUALLY short shares.. I sells calls against MOST of all of my stocks. give up less than 1 in 10. Its extra income and appreciation. And nearly doubles my annual stock appreciation.
NikeWings
Active Member
They need to recall a car over s/w........no OTA fix? How ancient. LOL
tesla deserves AND NEEDS amazing leadership.. the people are out there, I really don't know why they don't find them and hire them.
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