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I got the Red Caliper Kit with higher thermal capacity pads from Tesla
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It’s a 2023 mxp but missed the matrix and red calipers. I did the matrix myself but had Tesla do the red calipers.Your car was a Performance model to begin with, correct?
It’s a 2023 mxp...
If the SC won’t install it because you don’t have a plaid, perhaps try to buy the rears only and paint the fronts. Or contact tom@eas.I asked because (depending on the SC?) I think it can be difficult to order red brakes from Tesla for a non-performance model.
- @MLo1:
- The rear caliper is not just a standard caliper with a cover. That rumor may have started because of the whole Model Y performance brake caliper scandal. But Models 3 and Y use different brakes, I believe.
- Since ~ 2017 rear Model X (and Model S) brakes are (less powerful) Mando brakes. They work slightly differently from the (more powerful) front Brembo brakes. With the Mandos, there is a large piece (bracket?) that slides in and out (with hydraulic pressure). That is the piece that looks like a cover. It is not a cover, per se, but is part of the whole cast aluminum assembly. At least, that is how it is on the "Legacy" rear Mando brake calipers, and from photos it appears to be the same for the "refreshed" models.
- The rear brake does not have a plastic cover, afaik. (It doesn't on the "Legacy" rear brakes.) It is just the way the rear Mando brakes are built (of a cast alloy, I believe).
I just wanted to point out on the refreshed X, It is literally a cover...
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What you're showing doesn't show the cover. The red caliper in Photo 5 is the exact same caliper I have on my 22 MXP but mine is black. There is a cover that attaches that makes it look like it's twice as big, but in fact it's the same exact caliper.
What you're showing doesn't show the cover.
The red caliper in Photo 5 is the exact same caliper I have on my 22 MXP but mine is black. There is a cover that attaches that makes it look like it's twice as big, but in fact it's the same exact caliper.
On the refreshed X, the brakes are all the same.
On the 22 Plaid they were black.
Sometime in 23, the Plaids came with red calipers and the rear were huge. Making people assume they were different, larger and better. Once more people got a hold of the 23 Plaids with the new calipers, turns out they were the exact same as the 22 Plaids, just red with a large cover to make it look bigger. There was debate on if they were actually better. But after doing part searches they were the same pads etc.
Some time later Tesla put out a news release saying Plaid owners can upgrade their brakes to these new ones. Once people got a hold of them, it confirmed they were actually the same calipers with just a cover. But now Tesla had. A new part number for the brake pads. So they made a change to the pads since the brakes were not up to the ttask.they also upgraded the brake fluid
I researched all of this because I was annoyed with the fact I didn't get red brakes and was going to do the upgrade. Then the price drops happened and well I just gave up on doing anything with my Plaid. Just drive it and try not to think about it now. Keeps my blood pressure down this way.
Yes this is one of the reasons I went with Tesla for the install. Seems they had to make some changesSo *technically* there are software changes that go with the pads
cfg_brakehwtype (accesId 17) -> BREMBO2_42_44_D380_MANDO1_43_D365_GA5514HTT (configId 11) for the S, and BREMBO2_42_44_D395_MANDO1_43_D365_GA5514HTT (configId 12) for the X. And if you want the UI to reflect the red calipers, can change cfg_calipercolortype (150) to "RED" (02).
Obviously color is just a cosmetic thing, but I'm not sure if there's a functional difference when it comes to the car knowing what pads it has with regards to ABS, stability control, self driving stuff, etc.
That's interesting. Many have bought the brakes and had them installed by their shop and nothing pops up on the info screen. The car doesn't know or can tell there's a difference. The only thing i can think of is when you do the upgrade through Tesla, the image of your X has red brakes instead of black. I've seen some on the forum buy the complete set up, that includes new rotors etc. And it was just plug and play.So *technically* there are software changes that go with the pads
cfg_brakehwtype (accesId 17) -> BREMBO2_42_44_D380_MANDO1_43_D365_GA5514HTT (configId 11) for the S, and BREMBO2_42_44_D395_MANDO1_43_D365_GA5514HTT (configId 12) for the X. And if you want the UI to reflect the red calipers, can change cfg_calipercolortype (150) to "RED" (02).
Obviously color is just a cosmetic thing, but I'm not sure if there's a functional difference when it comes to the car knowing what pads it has with regards to ABS, stability control, self driving stuff, etc.
Yes I just went with the Tesla mainly to have it all covered under warranty.That's interesting. Many have bought the brakes and had them installed by their shop and nothing pops up on the info screen. The car doesn't know or can tell there's a difference. The only thing i can think of is when you do the upgrade through Tesla, the image of your X has red brakes instead of black. I've seen some on the forum buy the complete set up, that includes new rotors etc. And it was just plug and play.
Well like I said the caliper color config is clearly cosmetic, but they have a different parameter for the pad material as well, and I don’t know what that changes. If I had to guess it’d be a subtle abs / stability control thing.That's interesting. Many have bought the brakes and had them installed by their shop and nothing pops up on the info screen. The car doesn't know or can tell there's a difference. The only thing i can think of is when you do the upgrade through Tesla, the image of your X has red brakes instead of black. I've seen some on the forum buy the complete set up, that includes new rotors etc. And it was just plug and play.
What you're showing doesn't show the cover. The red caliper in Photo 5 is the exact same caliper I have on my 22 MXP but mine is black. There is a cover that attaches that makes it look like it's twice as big, but in fact it's the same exact caliper.
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On the refreshed X, the brakes are all the same. On the 22 Plaid they were black. Sometime in 23, the Plaids came with red calipers and the rear were huge. Making people assume they were different, larger and better. Once more people got a hold of the 23 Plaids with the new calipers, turns out they were the exact same as the 22 Plaids, just red with a large cover to make it look bigger. There was debate on if they were actually better. But after doing part searches they were the same pads etc...
(early) 2021 Model X Long Range Plus | Right Rear Wheel | Right Front Wheel |