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  1. Kincaid

    Accidentally drove Model 3 through garage door

    So sorry for your mishap. You would not have encountered the problem if you had purchased an available software option for your Model 3. Perhaps you have the option and it was not engaged. It comes standard on a Model X. Go to your control panel and look for the entry "Engage regenerative...
  2. Kincaid

    Beware, LONG wait time for TESLA Body Shop Repairs

    Alas, here is a gloomy reality check on the Tesla Body Shop located in Fremont on Spinnaker Court, and on Tesla's organizational shortfalls in general. Our family has two Tesla Model X’s: A 2016 Model X 90D, and a 2017 Model X 100D. The 2017 Model X 100D had a rear trunk lid alignment issue...
  3. Kincaid

    Model X Crash on US-101 (Mountain View, CA)

    What if we were to try this approach in order to understand what happened to cause this tragedy. We have 3 factors that are most likely responsible for the accident: Auto Pilot error, driver error, or roadway conditions. Let’s give the benefit of the doubt to the most reasonable defense for...
  4. Kincaid

    Model X Crash on US-101 (Mountain View, CA)

    In the same manner that Autopilot, inattentiveness, and difficult lighting played a role in the May 2016 Model S collision with a truck, those factors created this Model X tragedy. In the Model S accident, The NTSB unanimously voted to accept that the probable cause of the crash included a...
  5. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Today's long awaited Model 3 delivery party from the perspective of the 2 year wait for my 5 seat Model X delivery: As we all know, it was an extra long and frustrating wait for our 5 seat Model X cars to be delivered. Those scurrilous neighbors of mine all driving around in 6 and 7 seat Model...
  6. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Space at the Fremont factory has been crowded significantly by the addition of the huge Model 3 production line. They no longer deliver new cars at the factory, but have moved the delivery center to a huge, fancy building complex a few miles away, and also in Fremont. Storage for the new car...
  7. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    My preference, of course, is always to be an optimist, so I have strived to have the ideal health, ideal wife, ideal kids, ideal job, ideal houses, and ideal cars & boats. Alas, I admit, it's a tricky path navigating those fantasies. I kept the 90D set to "Ideal" range (it's under "Settings"...
  8. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    New discovery: that new 5 seat Model X 100D of mine has another very surprising difference from its 5 seat Model X 90D twin picked up the same day as yours on December 22, 2016. I was surprised because the Tesla literature indicated that the battery pack for the 100D Model X could be charged...
  9. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Absolutely another five seat Model X. In fact, the cars are identical except for the battery pack. I still can't figure out why anyone wants six or seven seats stuffed into a Model X. As you discovered, the ability of those rear cargo floor panels to carry a heavy weight is exceptional. We went...
  10. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    The first 5 seat Model X (90D) I ordered took two years to be delivered, and came without rear flooring panels. Those woes were daily chronicled on this forum. Nevertheless, it has been a wonderful car. So how pitiful am I? I ordered another Model X (100D) last Thursday, June 29. It arrived...
  11. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    I have not yet recovered from the fact that, nor been able to understand why, folks from Oregon and Colorado were anointed with fully implemented rear cargo flooring panels in December, and I was shortchanged on the deal. Perhaps Tesla discovered I had a bunch of TSLA stock and they knew it...
  12. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    This is a very positive demographic that is developing on the Peninsula, all the way from San Francisco down to San Jose. There are still thieves, but now reciprocating piston gas operated dinosaurs are viewed with such disdain that not even the thieves will steal them. At the other end of the...
  13. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    You mean other than your flooring panels were unfairly delivered in December, you could show off two golf bags neatly resting on a flat surface in your rear trunk, and I had to wait until April? One peculiar difference I notice is that the three "Top Tether" signs on the rear of your back seats...
  14. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Model X 5 seat flooring fun: Was it a coincidence that on the day Tesla delivered and installed the updated and resigned flooring panels for my 5 seat Model X Tesla stock was up over 7 points, and close to its all time highs on heavy volume while the rest of the market was way down?
  15. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Model X 5 seat flooring panel design:
  16. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    FLOORING PANELS: The weather in Squaw Valley was windy and rainy. I used that as an excuse to head back to San Jose early, and went right to Tesla Sunnyvale. The 5 seat Model X rear trunk panels are installed. The kit comes with two floor panels and one upright panel to support the floor panel...
  17. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    The info I received from the Sunnyvale Service Center is that the rear flooring package consists of several pieces and will require an installation process, not merely just placing the panels where they belong. I will of course upload detailed pictures of every piece of the panels puzzle when...
  18. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    ALERT: the redesigned 5 seat Model X rear cargo flooring panels have arrived, straps and all. The updated design is being installed on vehicles already delivered. My panel set was delivered to the Tesla Service Center in Sunnyvale, and I am stopping by on Tuesday, April 18, to have them...
  19. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Nice pictures! Thank you. The evidence is mounting that the factory has flooring parts that it does not share with the Service Centers. The most surprising thing is that you took delivery in California, not Oregon. I posted a picture of a 5 seat Model X delivered today in Fremont with cargo area...
  20. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Frustrating sight. I am in Fremont this morning, having driven a friend up here to pick up his 5 seat Model X. His rear cargo flooring configuration (photo attached) appears to be an earlier design along the pot luck sequence line than the design delivered to TechVP. No sign of the leather lift...
  21. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Oops. We both mean Model 3 !
  22. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Here is the response I received to the group "explain this" email that included TechVP's photo collection. I sent that email to the Sunnyvale and Fremont service center managers and my Fremont Delivery Specialist: 1. It was the Fremont service center rep who called me back, representing the...
  23. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Done. Time for some answers. I sent a group email to my Delivery Specialist, and the Service Managers at the Tesla Service Centers in Sunnyvale and in Fremont. The email included a link to TechVP's cargo area flooring photo album and noted the 3/26/2017 delivery date in Portland, OR.
  24. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    TechVP: thank you immensely. That rear cargo flooring photo album you provided is definitive. The parts installed in your vehicle are clearly parts that have not been been installed on any of the other vehicles we have seen on this forum, and certainly not seen on parts in my Model X. The...
  25. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Your configuration is similar to the manner in which the beths11 5 seat Model X is configured. It is supposedly not the elusive "final design", but it is considerably more complete, even if Tesla considered it a temporary configuration, that the rear cargo area of my vehicle. All that was...
  26. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Thank you! That is going to be extremely helpful. It also has the potential for creating a less than amicable issue with Tesla if the 5 seat Model X vehicles currently being delivered have the completed version of the cargo area flooring, and the 5 seat Model X vehicles delivered from December...
  27. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Very disappointing update on 5 seat Model X cargo flooring panels woes: I received these comments included in an email from the service manager at the Tesla Service Center in Sunnyvale, virtually the same reply from the Service Manager at the Santa Clara Service Center, and a nearly identical...
  28. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    beths11 will be gratified to know that I have a report that is actually on topic for this forum for 5 seat Model X deliveries (started by beths11): I have a friend who is taking delivery of his new 5 seat Model X at the Fremont factory on March 29. I am driving him there, and will be looking...
  29. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Don't underestimate the popularity of your (and my) falcon wing thrills. Cars have morphed into such generic shapes, there are now few differences between the shape of a Maserati, Hondas, Ford Fusions, Jaguars, and the rest of the mundane crowd. But wait, look at that Model X! Those doors are...
  30. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    I once had a girlfriend with a great sense of humor, who was lovely, very intelligent, from a good family, and had great falcon wing doors. Oops. No, no. I meant she had great legs. There is always a catch, always a hook, after the basics are all in order, that seals the deal. With Julie, it...
  31. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Yes, you're right. There was an extensive clinical study done on Superior Seating Design by the Vehicular Wisdom & Perspicacity Institute . It confirmed that SUV's with 5 seats whose second row folds down to create an expansive flat cargo surface were preferred 9 to 1 by individuals with...
  32. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Naturally, I did call right after making my previous forum comments, and asked about the two "new inventory" 5 seat Model X vehicles located nearby. That was at the request of one of my tennis pals who thinks he wants to buy a 5 seat Model X. The answer for both these cars was that they were...
  33. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    What has become a genuine cause for concern relating to the Model X 5 seat cargo area flooring is the number of "new inventory" 5 seat Model X P100D and P90D vehicles that are being offered for sale on the Tesla website. These new and unsold cars are priced anywhere between $130K and $164K. What...
  34. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    No, I have not received the parts to complete the rear trunk flooring. I don't think anyone has. I get a call once a week from the Sunnyvale, CA Tesla Service Center telling me they still have no news. The most recent news is that the rear trunk flooring configuration is being "redesigned". In...
  35. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    I noticed those gaps as well, and also wondered about support issues, and seat recline issues. Clearly, a few dealerships (Texas, Oregon, et alia) were given some early experimental resolutions to the tricky issues of rear trunk flooring and storage design, and Tesla pushed as many 5 seat Model...
  36. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    By gosh, you did it. You over delivered. They are an excellent and thorough set of pictures, and I certainly do appreciate it. We all do. Thank you. Now, on to issues of language in various parts of our country. We now know that in Austin, TX "maybe" is a way of communicating that you are...
  37. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Careful. Now you've exposed all of us. I explain my mysterious walks to the garage by claiming "I need to get my work bench organized." Then I sit in the car, and give the audio system verbal commands to play songs I have not heard in 50 years. It always comes up with them, with infinitely...
  38. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Your service advisor was clearly mistaken, or perhaps he was referring to a book cover, mattress cover, cover charge, pillow cover, or the sports Illustrated Swimsuit Model cover. I often cover up the fact that I just feel like going for a drive in my Tesla by telling people I am going to lunch...
  39. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Whew. Glad to hear it. Excellent approach.
  40. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    "Maybe?" "Maybe?" So let me confirm. In Austin, TX, the word "maybe" actually means "of course I will send several pictures the minute I get back. I have great sympathy for all you poor souls driving around in a 5 seat Model X with dark chasms behind your second row of seats instead of an...
  41. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    5 seat Model X rear trunk floor update: The service manager at the Sunnyvale, CA Service Center reports that he has no idea when the parts to complete the rear trunk floor will arrive. The delivery Specialist at the Fremont factory reports that he has no idea when the parts to complete the rear...
  42. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    beths11: I actually showed the Sunnyvale Service Center techs your picture of the rear flooring as it is installed in your car. They were dumbfounded and had never seen anything like it. Ouch. I thereupon hounded them mercilessly about how the Tesla folks in Oregon could get things done while...
  43. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    "Did they even have the vertical panel that goes behind the second row seat?" They had zilch other than the folding panel. "Maybe it belongs to a Model-3?" That's what we all thought: "maybe an advance peek t the model 3 shelf!" It definitely is not,
  44. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    FIVE SEAT REAR TRUNK FLOORING REPORT: Alas, I headed up to the Sunnyvale, CA Tesla service center this morning for my much anticipated appointment to have the rear trunk flooring installed. The result? They had the wrong part that not only did not fit a Model X 6 seater, 7 seater, or 5...
  45. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Rear shelving alert: the rear platform for my five seat Model x is being installed tomorrow. I am accepting requests for any picture angles anyone wants to see. My understanding is that I am having the super advanced, double improved version of the five seat shelving: much better than the rear...
  46. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    The easy hauling of golf clubs makes me very jealous indeed. I also envy the cosmetic superiority of having a completely finished rear trunk area, plus a trunk that does not encourage everything to roll around everywhere all the time! That being said, and on a subject likely near to both our...
  47. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    This could mean that beths11 received a jury rigged prototype that was instantly obsolete the day after delivery, and the rest of us were chosen to receive the premium, advanced design, rear floor panel configuration. And so, as is so often the case, jealousy, sympathy, and karma inevitably...
  48. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    The learning curve for snowboarding, especially for an experienced skier/wind & kite surfer, is about an hour. The one mandatory stipulation is that you learn in deep, soft powder. Learning on hardpack or ice is definitely not recommended. I learned in Banff, in January, on ice: it was a nasty...
  49. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Ah, Duckjybe, we are kindred spirits, and I do not mean to preach. I apologize for the urge to proselytize. But your runs down the the Mt. Hood summer snow in the morning, your high speed runs across the Columbia River at Hood River in the July afternoon, holding out for the only logical Tesla...
  50. Kincaid

    Model X 5 Seat Deliveries

    Ah, the view of the section of the Columbia River that I have windsurfed every year for the past 20 years is a wonderful sight. My pals and I travel to Hood River every June for snowboarding Mt. Hood in the morning and then windsurfing on the Columbia River when the wind kicks in for the...