I can only laugh when I read you guys debating ANYTHING pertaining to FSD and Tesla. AP2 has become a joke among Tesla owners. I'd be hard-pressed to believe Tesla will achieve FSD in the next 10 years when they can't even bring AP2 to parity with AP1. Heck, they can't even get TACC to work correctly with AP2. Every other car company is way ahead of Tesla with TACC.
The threads linked below are from this very web page. And the small sample of comments are from the last week (and from page 1 of 8 pages of people griping about AP2).
And you people think FSD is even a remote possibility? Do you not own an AP2 car? Do you not read these owners' threads? Talk to owners? Or do you just read press releases from Tesla?
AP2 Totally Sucks
AP2 Totally Sucks 2
"This morning when approaching a bridge overpass traveling at 65mph the car very quickly decelerated to 45mph, throwing everything in the passenger seat into the floorboard BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY causing everyone behind her to start braking hard and almost caused a major accident."
"Indeed! Most of us (AP2) have experienced this sudden slow down and/or lane departure when on AP. Its getting very tiring to always have to watch like a hawk and override brake/accelerator/steering when driving along in normal traffic/roads and the AP suddenly gets a wild hare in its 'brain' and does something dumb and dangerous."
"The 20/75/85 ramps and turns are horrible on "silky smooth". More like, "hug.the.inside.lane.marker" or "disengage.for.every.bend"
"While it has gotten much better with each release, when the road ahead is wide open and the car slams on the brakes, for what, invisible hazards?"
This one is a classic:
"But honestly, I think driving myself is less stressful than constantly being on edge waiting for the car to do the wrong thing.
When driving myself I only have to worry about everyone else doing something stupid, not everyone else AND my own car doing something stupid."
"I tense [SIC] when using TACC with bridges and use AP only to test it by myself after it tried to follow a dark line on the road to an adjacent concrete wall instead of following the straight roadmarking lines ahead..."
"Yeah, I just don't use EAP or TACC anymore except for brief periods. Even plain old cruise would be better than TACC that does stuff totally by surprise."
"This week my EAP braked on I94 because of the shadow of a semi in an adjacent lane. It registered the shadow as a car entering my lane."
"Letting AP2 EAP drive is a lot like teaching a teenager to drive as they make noob mistakes.... except you are at least seated in the drivers position and don't have to reach so far to grab the wheel....."
"I understand keep hand on wheel for EAP but literally every car manufacturer in the world including tesla on ap1 had or has tacc function that doesn't try to get you in car accidents. I'm in the same boat with my wife not wajtijg to ever use eap or tacc because of this very reason. "
"I'm sorry for you guys. Don't understand why after so much time AP2 is still hit and miss. How can Tesla even speak of FSD when they can't keep a decent upgrade valid for longer than a week or so before it's replaced by a downgrade? "
"Forget the AP stuff, let's just look at TACC.
On my Audi, it's TACC equivalent has been 100% flawless in the 13 months I've owned it. Zero occasions where it has randomly decelerated, or failed to see a car in front of it. On the flip side, my AP2 has had issues with both; it randomly decelerates on the freeway, and has almost rear ended cars in front of me (didn't slow down at all when approaching). At this point i do not trust it at all. "
"We'll another release and nothing special, this is getting down right sad."
"I don't want to brag or be seen as an elitist, but I own an exotic car with stars on it ...
it's called a Subaru. It has TACC that is also flawless. And lane maintenance assist that has been flawless. And I can have plain old cruise instead of TACC if I push a "button." It's a shame that my tesla has its functionality set in stone such that I cannot disable the beta TACC functionality and just have basic cruise, but that would take dozens of lines of code."