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Did Tesla really lay off their entire Supercharger staff

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Apparently maintenance and installation people not affected. This was primarily those who scouted new stations, legal people for setting up leases, accounting people for paying and tracking leases and section heads. People from that group have already said it was a bloated department. There are lots of completely finished superchargers that are awaiting hookup to the grid 6 months or more after completion. Sounds like a serious problem to me.

Plus they are switching to a pre fab model where superchargers arrive on a truck at the new location. Maybe a good time to clean house.
Okay, back to the OP--what Webeevdrivers said makes the most sense to me. If the Department of SC Expansion (made that up) were bloated and moving too fast to be helpful, then it makes sense that they would be significantly downsized. Again, we don't know if the 500 represents ALL of that group. And Elon's tweet about expanding more slowly indicates it's not the whole department, or that he will re-hire whoever is really needed.

I saw Elon in person at a university he visited a few years ago. The university president had a fireside chat with him on stage with most of the student body in attendance. Elon said something that struck me at the time, along the lines of (not verbatim): "When you're trying to solve a hard problem, check your assumptions--start eliminating things you assume are needed, and then you will find out what really was (and was not) needed." That sentiment aligns with what we're seeing here.
 
Okay, back to the OP--what Webeevdrivers said makes the most sense to me. If the Department of SC Expansion (made that up) were bloated and moving too fast to be helpful, then it makes sense that they would be significantly downsized. Again, we don't know if the 500 represents ALL of that group. And Elon's tweet about expanding more slowly indicates it's not the whole department, or that he will re-hire whoever is really needed.

I saw Elon in person at a university he visited a few years ago. The university president had a fireside chat with him on stage with most of the student body in attendance. Elon said something that struck me at the time, along the lines of (not verbatim): "When you're trying to solve a hard problem, check your assumptions--start eliminating things you assume are needed, and then you will find out what really was (and was not) needed." That sentiment aligns with what we're seeing here.
I think that you could have a point, and Tesla has the data, if the Department of SC Expansion (you made that up) were justifying their existence by opening new SC where there was no demand...then Elon is right to rationalize them
 
Agreed, I had forgotten about the "say the secret password and give the secret handshake and you can buy a $35K model stripped of all options". Hardly in the spirit of the original promise, but Musk is all about technicalities these days.
Are you effing kidding me?! You can't make this stuff up folks...
Me too. That is how long I have been waiting on Musk to keep his promise about FSD, that would be solved "by the end of the year/next year".
You claim you almost boight one and yet even YOU somehow forgot the very car you "almost bought" was ever available? Blinded by your hatred of Elon much? You chose to post something that was factually incorrect as fact that you later even claim that you KNEW first hand about? Man, that vendetta you're carrying around must be burdensome.

So, to summarize, in one post you claim he never made available the $35k car (as if that has ANY relevance in this conversation in the first place other than to seemingly drive your personal agenda about Elon) and then, in your very next post, you agree you were wrong (even though you conveniently side-stepped this udpate when I presented undeniable proof of it's existence) when someone else offers up push-back and then -and this is my favorite part- one post later you even claim you almost bought one.


This is what's wrong with these conversations. People are so blind to the facts (or lack thereof in this case) that they just spew false narratives presented as fact to fuel their own personal agenda. Other people in the same camp read that same BS that affirms their stance and take it as fact and then parrot it elsewhere to further the cause. Nobody bothers to apply any common sense to any of it first.

People want so desperately to be "heard" that they don't even care if what they know they're saying to be true or not.
 
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These employees could take their knowledge elsewhere like ChargePoint or one of the many other charging companies.. If I was the CEO of one of these other companies I would be doing some interviews.
Perhaps that is the master plan, spread the knowledge and the philosophy.....all those incompetent, overpriced, confusing to use, subscription ripoff networks can be redesigned by a flood of ex Tesla employees hitting the market
 
Apparently maintenance and installation people not affected. This was primarily those who scouted new stations, legal people for setting up leases, accounting people for paying and tracking leases and section heads. People from that group have already said it was a bloated department. There are lots of completely finished superchargers that are awaiting hookup to the grid 6 months or more after completion. Sounds like a serious problem to me.

Plus they are switching to a pre fab model where superchargers arrive on a truck at the new location. Maybe a good time to clean house.
Do you have any source for this? This has the most detail I have seen so far, and people in other threads are asking also.
 
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Elon said something that struck me at the time, along the lines of (not verbatim): "When you're trying to solve a hard problem, check your assumptions--start eliminating things you assume are needed, and then you will find out what really was (and was not) needed."
That can work for science and engineering, because the "removed things" have no memory and can be reapplied as needed.

People should be handled with more care. He might be "emotionless" (in a good way?) about some problem-solving, but he definitely tips into something more like "inhumane" w/r/t people.
 
-Last year>> "Seven major automakers on Wednesday said they were forming a new company to provide electric vehicle charging in the U.S., in a challenge to Tesla"<< last year. Great possibility Musk will sell his Supercharger network to them? Kind of a backwards way to do it..fire everyone first...just a guess, and yes, WTF do I know...
 
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Apparently maintenance and installation people not affected. This was primarily those who scouted new stations, legal people for setting up leases, accounting people for paying and tracking leases and section heads. People from that group have already said it was a bloated department. There are lots of completely finished superchargers that are awaiting hookup to the grid 6 months or more after completion. Sounds like a serious problem to me.
Somebody has to deal with somebody on the new sites that will apparently still be added.
They'll still have to be validated.
Somebody has to decide any agreed "rental".
So who'll do that?

Other legal staff could handle the legal agreements.


Plus they are switching to a pre fab model where superchargers arrive on a truck at the new location. Maybe a good time to clean house.
They've been using pre-fab for a while now but I do not believe they can use pre-fab everywhere.
 
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Somebody has to deal with somebody on the new sites that will apparently still be added.
They'll still have to be validated.
Somebody has to decide any agreed "rental".
So who'll do that?

Other legal staff could handle the legal agreements.



They've been using pre-fab for a while now but I do not believe they can use pre-fab everywhere.
Who will do that? New employees. Or rehired former employees.
 
-Last year>> "Seven major automakers on Wednesday said they were forming a new company to provide electric vehicle charging in the U.S., in a challenge to Tesla"<< last year. Great possibility Musk will sell his Supercharger network to them? Kind of a backwards way to do it..fire everyone first...just a guess, and yes, WTF do I know...

That would be awful. Those 7 automakers would love to bury EVs and keep making their profitable ICE vehicles. You sell them the Supercharger network and they'll find a way to burn it down.
 
That would be awful. Those 7 automakers would love to bury EVs and keep making their profitable ICE vehicles. You sell them the Supercharger network and they'll find a way to burn it down.
Probably so. Just frustration showing.

“What’s the plan, what’s the strategy, and at such a pivotal moment, why are they bailing on that entire team?” asked Jonathan Katz, an EV-charging executive who was part of Tesla’s charging unit for five years ending in 2020.
 
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So much for the mission statement of transitioning the world to sustainable energy. In the US at least the Tesla sc network is the only decent network and now it’s being dead ended or at least significantly slowed down. Even though it’s not high tech, there is a lot of knowledge in doing contracts with hosts, utilities, and city planning departments going out the door. Actually, flashing back to a previous lifetime, this seems like typical Silicon Valley MO. Pull everyone in a conference room, tell everyone that they are fired and cannot return to their desks for fear of sabotage, then make appointments to come in escorted and get your stuff out of the cube. Then offer a small number of people short term contracts to transfer knowledge to which I said FU. Zero regard for employees or suppliers who can no longer get a response from the company.
 
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So much for the mission statement of transitioning the world to sustainable energy. In the US at least the Tesla sc network is the only decent network and now it’s being dead ended or at least significantly slowed down. Even though it’s not high tech, there is a lot of knowledge in doing contracts with hosts, utilities, and city planning departments going out the door.
I haven’t seen anything indicating it will be dead ended or slowed down. Improvement and updates are needed. And maybe get the dozens of completed sites online that are not connected to the grid yet. There was obviously some incompetence in that department.
 
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not connected to the grid yet.
I think this is the main problem. A full set of Superchargers sucks hard on the grid. You have to wait for the local network to get to you with a sufficient supply.

Happens here with ChargeNet. Here's your 50kW charger, sorry it's running at 1/4 speed for the meantime. Tesla would rather not commission them half arsed but they will settle for 125kW.
 
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I think this is the main problem. A full set of Superchargers sucks hard on the grid. You have to wait for the local network to get to you with a sufficient supply.

Happens here with ChargeNet. Here's your 50kW charger, sorry it's running at 1/4 speed for the meantime. Tesla would rather not commission them half arsed but they will settle for 125kW.
Right. So somebody on that team dropped the ball in not insuring that the local utility was ready for the supercharger. I would say that is a dismissible boo boo right there.
 
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Right. So somebody on that team dropped the ball in not insuring that the local utility was ready for the supercharger. I would say that is a dismissible boo boo right there.
They did their job in getting it consented. It's not their fault utilities can't keep up. Exposing the big lie is the dismissible boo boo.

You can't just magic up an extra 1000kW in the corner of a mall carpark.
 
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