I'm only talking about 2024.3.6.I would not think so. Earlier v12 releases went to '22 MS/MX and to '18 for M3.
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I'm only talking about 2024.3.6.I would not think so. Earlier v12 releases went to '22 MS/MX and to '18 for M3.
True. Sometimes I think they throw darts at a board with software rollout strategies. The "Let's give it to unpaid users but not paid" and "only 2023/2024 cars" in this rollout. Hard to make ant sense in the strategy de jour.I'm only talking about 2024.3.6.
Best guess as their announcement of FSD for all this month was focused on New sales and owners they likely focused the roll out to start there. I would assume they will continue the roll out over the next month to other era cars.True. Sometimes I think they throw darts at a board with software rollout strategies. The "Let's give it to unpaid users but not paid" and "only 2023/2024 cars" in this rollout. Hard to make ant sense in the strategy de jour.
FirmwareWhat is FW and what source do you get this info? I am legit dying for info, but have no idea where or how to get it. I check Teslascope and Teslafi. Are there other sources? Getting very frustrated that not a single Legacy vehicle has seen this build.
Yeah, it's a vaguely technical term.What is FW and what source do you get this info? I am legit dying for info, but have no idea where or how to get it. I check Teslascope and Teslafi. Are there other sources? Getting very frustrated that not a single Legacy vehicle has seen this build.
Thanks for this. It’s good to (finally) see someone at Tesla providing some transparency and clear comms to us 3-percenters.Tesla says that they are working on validating a V12 version for legacy S&X:
They are even working on it today, which is a holiday.
And for the RHD cars? Are there separate teams dealing with the dozens of different countries' road laws, quite apart from the driving seat position?Thanks for this. It’s good to (finally) see someone at Tesla providing some transparency and clear comms to us 3-percenters.
Um. There’s been plenty of rumors over the years that Tesla’s been doing some, I guess, basic FSD development in other countries outside of North America. (Not sure about Mexico.)And for the RHD cars? Are there separate teams dealing with the dozens of different countries' road laws, quite apart from the driving seat position?
Here in Australia my MS is at 2024.4.8.7 so obviously there must be some unit working at least on RHD with the NSW Australian road rules.Um. There’s been plenty of rumors over the years that Tesla’s been doing some, I guess, basic FSD development in other countries outside of North America. (Not sure about Mexico.)
But regulators, notably those in the EU, have banned Tesla’s tech. Although there are other rumors that home-grown manufacturers are getting a bit of a pass.
Um. Two things, in reverse order:Here in Australia my MS is at 2024.4.8.7 so obviously there must be some unit working at least on RHD with the NSW Australian road rules.
Given that so-called "FSD" is unlikely to be autonomous, only level 3 or thereabouts - ie. a "driver aid" - I can't see how Tesla can shy away from delivering the beta here as just that. It's on the same legal level as cruise control in many aspects. And we've paid for it!
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.What does this have to do with vertical screen early adopters?
And you believe him?? At this point I believe NOTHING Tesla says, …. Only what they DOTesla says that they are working on validating a V12 version for legacy S&X:
They are even working on it today, which is a holiday.
I have no idea what the various versions do or what capability they have - the update numbering system is opaque. Mostly the rel notes just say "Minor bug fixes" or something about video games. Having spent a lifetime in aviation it's disturbing to have such a complex system in the wild but with the only information coming from YouTubers in a different country with completely different systems even when the dot this dot that are similar!Um. Two things, in reverse order:
Again, speaking of #2: Despite the histrionics of the more-than-somewhat biased press, there have been few or no fatal accidents attributable to FSD in the US. There have been out-of-control maniacs blaming FSD for not handling their cars properly while being drunk/playing video games/generally not monitoring their cars, but, as far as I'm aware, nobody getting killed or injured because of some sudden, unexpected driving by the car itself. My S is presently 2024.4.8.7 if that makes any sense to....anyone!
- Around here, it's not uncommon to buy a house before it's built. One gets a discount for doing that. Sometimes, a pretty hefty discount. There's risk involved: The builder could go bust, a sinkhole could open up, etc. My understanding with FSD is that it's like that; cheap back in the day (heck, I paid around $4k for it), more as it comes to full fruition. 12.x is closer, but not there yet; when it's there, it'll be worth more.
- I'm not sure: Does AU have any type of FSD (the brand name, not the words) running around the landscape? Did you guys get 11.4.9 in it's full city-streets driving glory, or something that looks more like EAP, that won't do turns on city streets and roundabouts? My understanding is that those places where the full city streets regalia isn't present, isn't because Tesla felt that a different market was a better place to do it all, but was rather because regulators wouldn't let the thing run around until it was as good as, or better than, a human. By their standards, which shift a lot. IF that's true, then residents of those countries have not much other than their political levers to hang onto in order to get things changed.
I'm not sure it makes a difference in my life, but TIL that ROM isn't in my phone, it would be flash RAM. I've managed to remap software 'program' to be 'app' (and find myself calling programs on my computer apps if they are simple, but my accounting program is still a program.)Nowadays things tend to get blurred. Hardly anybody uses ROM any more, although it's still available: For non-volatile storage that's ROM-like most computers use "flash RAM", a variant of ROM that can be reprogrammed at slower (cheap) or faster (expensive) rates.
Why not believe him? He really didn't need to say anything. If we are really less than 3% they would have nothing to lose by screwing us. They know we'll eventually cave and buy another Tesla anyway because there really is no competition to their product.And you believe him?? At this point I believe NOTHING Tesla says, …. Only what they DO
My car will probably last me out but if not I will buy an EV but not a Tesla which has no stalks etc. I don't live in the States so have to indicate during opposite turns frequently and being right-handed find the touchscreen very difficult.Why not believe him? He really didn't need to say anything. If we are really less than 3% they would have nothing to lose by screwing us. They know we'll eventually cave and buy another Tesla anyway because there really is no competition to their product.
Hmmm...Ioniq5 just had its best March sales ever (no tax rebates)...Tesla just had it's first decrease in recent memory (still eligible for tax rebates)Why not believe him? He really didn't need to say anything. If we are really less than 3% they would have nothing to lose by screwing us. They know we'll eventually cave and buy another Tesla anyway because there really is no competition to their product.