About 25% of the fleet is on 2024.8.7, so I expect Tesla to release an update for them soon. That will provide an upgrade path for just about everyone.Begs rhe question, what vehicles are stuck on 2024.8.X?
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About 25% of the fleet is on 2024.8.7, so I expect Tesla to release an update for them soon. That will provide an upgrade path for just about everyone.Begs rhe question, what vehicles are stuck on 2024.8.X?
I’d imagine they are working diligently to get it to everyone and are probably anxious for people to try it. This is the first version they can legitimately be proud of.About 25% of the fleet is on 2024.8.7, so I expect Tesla to release an update for them soon. That will provide an upgrade path for just about everyone.
If we believe what Tesla says on the in car screen where we can choose the profile, those profiles (chill, average, assertive) only affect the following distance and how often speed related lane changes happen. Not how fast it accelerates or brakes, this matches my experience.Is this behavior affected by choosing a different drive profile like chill vs standard vs insane? Maybe there's another setting like this in the FSD/Autopilot menu. My 2022 MSLR does not have FSDb and is waiting for an update from 2024.7.2 and an invite for a free month of FSD (supervised).
Not victimized, and really don’t care, haven’t even driven my “FSD” car in like 3 days lmao. Just pointing out that this is another process that Tesla somehow manages to half ass.So I'm trying to figure out why you're feeling so victimized by this. I'm "stuck" on 12.3 too, and I don't give a Stevia. If intermediate rollouts get halted, they've got "feaures" I don't want. I am so happy with finally (thank God) seeing actual progress. I'm sure not hearing anything about 12.3.2.3.1.2.2.1 that excites me. When something finally reaches me, there'll much more likely be something to celebrate than there would've been in the aborted versions.
For me, proper speed on secondary roads, better lane choices, and a solid first attempt at vision only auto park are what I’ve seen. It’s definitely focusing more on the eyes and head than hands on the wheel now.Odd Omar is still on 12.3.1
I have not seen any obvious improvements. From 12.3 to 12.3.2.1.
Hope 12.3.3 is more apparent.
@Discoducky I (and others) would be grateful, if you feel so obliged, when you have a moment to please further expound on your robotaxi thoughts you began on the Perpetual Investor Forum...To be clear, but blunt, what I'm talking about is when Tesla starts with commercial robotaxi rides (which will happen in waves).
I'm assuming wave 1 happens with an in-car supervising driver but is picking up paying passengers. I'd expect this to happen this year **IF** we continue to see builds every ~2 weeks. Obviously there's more detail there, but happy to continue in the FSD appropriate thread. I add this here to be useful for this particular thread on the weekend.
Please keep the investment stuff in the investment thread. Thanks.@Discoducky I (and others) would be grateful, if you feel so obliged, when you have a moment to please further expound on your robotaxi thoughts you began on the Perpetual Investor Forum...
If you're looking at TeslaFi numbers, most of those on 2024.8.7 are outside of North America. 2024.3.x already has more vehicles on it than US/Canada on 2024.8.x. Yes, Tesla will need to prepare a new version of 12.x that these vehicles can update to, but they're closer to 5% of TeslaFi fleet (which has a US bias). It seems like those who could get 12.x but were already on 2024.8.4 ended up getting 2024.8.7 for the security fix, so Tesla might be preparing a 2024.8.10 for these vehicles.About 25% of the fleet is on 2024.8.7, so I expect Tesla to release an update for them soon
The issue is the time scale. It’s been a month or two since the initial 12.x releases to the public (OG testers)?Presumably other parts of Autopilot team are working on 12.4 with actual behavior changes but deferring priority to the main directive of getting 12.x to more people, so it seems a bit premature to declare 12.x has likely maxed out with no future improvement
this type of obscured turn will always be difficult for HW3/4. They need a camera in the upper driver side corner of the windshield.
Hope 12.3.3 is more apparent.
Have we seen 2 week improvement cycle with 12.x so far? It sounds like you're experienced with this type of Elon Musk mandate of getting more customers to experience 12.3.1 from less than a week ago, and it did result in a lot of activity of various 12.3.x released this past week. I would think that sudden reprioritization would in the near term delay 12.x improvements, but presumably with more customers actively using FSD, it should allow for even better data collection going forwards.What is the FSD moat? A fleet of millions able to collect video/map/weather/environment/vehicle dynamic/cabin driver data capable of being turned into ground truth for NN training that is distributed out to the entire fleet via OTA anywhere with a cycle time of less than 2 weeks.
Assistant to the ASSistant regional managerWait, I thought I was the assistant regional manager, not the assistant to the regional manager...
To take liability I think it needs to be safer in every situation and that anything less will be problematic.Even situations where end-to-end does something "safe enough" such as pulling out for an unprotected left or slowly creeping to get better visibility where other vehicles have enough time to respond such as slowing down or biasing away, this could still result in plenty of honking that passengers might notice and realize maybe it wasn't actually that safe. Presumably better hardware can improve on these situations to improve safety overall even if statistically the older hardware was already some multiple safer than humans driving in general.
Or are you suggesting 12.x needs to be significantly safer than humans in every situation and not just overall by mileage?
Good work! How did you locate that intersection?It's not a dedicated right turn lane (it merges with into another lane and it's also not a right turn only lane). Admittedly it does seem like there should be a green right turn arrow there.
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