Me three. My car lost about 7 miles as reported by TeslaFi on the charge immediately after the update to 2020.48.35.5. No other instigating factors other than the software revision.
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Me three. My car lost about 7 miles as reported by TeslaFi on the charge immediately after the update to 2020.48.35.5. No other instigating factors other than the software revision.
That’s impossible to say if it’s statistically meaningful.
That’s impossible to say if it’s statistically meaningful.
One, when you ask about "last update", without saying which update, some people may not be talking about the same update. I usually get updates about 2weeks after others, and since there's been alot of updates recently, you can't assume everyone is talking the same update, without people saying which one they're on.well a bit odd how you have an update and the next day you lose 5km. thats clearly not degradation.
Is there anything unusual about the behaviour of our Model 3s?
I.e. I do little driving in the city but lots of road trips with frequent deep discharges and around 50:50 DC to AC charging ratio. pretty much all of the DC charging gets down on 40kw dc chargers...
One, when you ask about "last update", without saying which update, some people may not be talking about the same update. I usually get updates about 2weeks after others, and since there's been alot of updates recently, you can't assume everyone is talking the same update, without people saying which one they're on.
Two, people have to say how they determined the estimate drop? We know TeslaFi and Stats and other 3rd-party apps use the temperature-affected SOC. So, colder temps, lead to lower range estimates. Even if it's your Summer, in Oz, a cool night, can cause a slight estimate drop.
Three, any BMS estimate change triggered by an update, like you said, "clearly not degradation", is more likely due to some kind of re-estimate, not real degradation.
So, it doesn't seem all that statistically meaningful when someone shows about a 1% estimate change after a couple charges, in the middle of January using TeslaFi.
...I only get 295 mi after charging to 100%. That’s almost 8%-10% battery degradation base on my calculation. Is that normal?...
I have 2018 Tesla long range rwd. After 2.5 years, closer to 3 years now and 24k miles driven, I only get 295 mi after charging to 100%. That’s almost 8%-10% battery degradation base on my calculation. Is that normal?
I would like to think I have pretty good charging habit. Rarely super charge, charge up to 85% daily, and charge up to 100% maybe once every 6 months. I live in Ca, so not really affected by cold weather.
This calculates to 295rmi*245Wh/rmi/77.8kWh = 92.9% (so 7.1% capacity loss).
I have a November 2018 Model 3 Performance, 22k miles. Similar charging habits. For the last year my typical daily charge has been 80%; before that I used between 80% and 90% depending on needs. Have taken about 5 or 6 road trips, so have about 30 Supercharges on the battery.
Seems pretty normal. I was at close to 288-290 rated miles until a couple months ago, but recently have readjusted to 277 rated miles at 100% (extrapolated from 80%, though a very recent full charge took it to 283 rated miles, so let's call it 280 rated miles). It's possible it will recover when it warms up slightly, but I'm certainly not counting on it.
So that's 11.8% capacity loss (~68.6kWh/77.8kWh) in a couple years. Very normal. Some people see much less, some people see a bit more.
Just part of the process of having an aging EV. Drive as fast as you can between Superchargers! Impact of the range loss will in most cases be inconsequential (obviously there are exceptions, but generally not in California).
not everyone here has access to superchargers every few kilometers and relies on covering i.e. 400km between chargers.
You have about 5% of your battery frozen with a blue snowflake.With covid and the cold weather my estimate for a LR RWD is only 408km (253 miles) from the 523km it was increased to in one of the updates. I think as others have pointed out it must be an estimation error.
You have about 5% of your battery frozen with a blue snowflake.
Anyone had a range drop with the last update? I lost another 8km and many other 3s I know did lose 5-10km.
I was just about to post an update that my range took another, hit immediately after the latest 2020.48.35.5 update. On 1/19 I posted my car was sitting around 259/260 @ 90%. After the update my 90% dropped to 250/251.