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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/tesla-must-face-fraud-suit-for-claiming-its-cars-could-fully-drive-themselves/ Tesla is apparently contending in court that full self-driving needs lidar to be achieved.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Don't know if this should go in the Technical Analysis thread (.../s) but here is how TSLA has performed the last few summers after Memorial Day: -2020: $56 to $140 (by early Sept) -2021: $195 to $240 -2022: $257 to $299 -2023: $200 to $245 Make of it what you will.
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    Just kill it off already

    Buy a Taycan?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Looks like you forgot a couple decimal points.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    On the Q1 earnings call (April 23rd), Lars Moravy said, "Cybertruck had a 1K week just a couple of weeks ago." Assuming the ramp has been somewhat linear, they probably exited March with a ~400/week rate. And then for the week of April 7-13 it suddenly jumped to 1,000/week? Magic 8 ball says...
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    Near-future quarterly financial projections

    Q2 deliveries will be interesting. -Europe April sales down 22% vs January. -In the five daily reporting countries that trend continues into May. -Plenty of inventory, timing of ships cannot be used as an excuse. -First six weeks of China sales are down ~5.4% vs first six weeks of Q1, despite...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What is/was being discussed is the conversion rate from the 30 day trial. Elon notes the take rate is higher, without giving specifics. Intentionally misleading or just naive/ignorant? They are two different things.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This would seem to run counter to the 1k/week claims, no?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Multiple shareholder who doesn't kiss the ground Elon walks on is now considered a troll. Sad! Big shouts to the uber bulls who can actually discuss and debate their position with facts rather than plugging their head in the sand and using the ignore button to avoid questions that make them...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It literally says "vote FOR"... Just a CEO demanding $55bn and spending operating capital to make sure he gets it. Very normal.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I gave you a citation of how the company picks and chooses when to share manufacturing run rates and how subsequent weeks don't line up. But apparently that's over now and we should just trust anything they say!
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    Boring Company

    https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/boring-company-accused-of-illegal-dumping-by-clark-county-official/
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So your argument is the CEO could be purposely sabotaging the company until he gets paid his record compensation package? And that's a sign he should stay as CEO and be paid whatever he wants?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Probably the same as Berlin hitting "6k/week" run rate once, though nowhere close to 80k/quarter. Sustained rate is more important than a one-time burst rate.
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    Cybertruck is a scam.

    https://electrek.co/2024/05/13/tesla-head-of-cybertruck-manufacturing-out Apparently the head of CT manufacturing didn't want to stick around. Or Elon didn't want him to.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://electrek.co/2024/05/13/tesla-head-of-cybertruck-manufacturing-out Head of CT manufacturing is no longer with the company.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Reports are they hiring some of the team back. Oops.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This level of management is worth $56bn?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-settles-factory-workers-sexual-163402282.html "Hardcore" litigation team didn't think they could win this one, apparently.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://breakingthenews.net/Article/Tesla's-Model-2-reportedly-shelved-just-before-completion/62034845 More news today of the Model 2 cancellation/shelving/insert term here.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://kalshi.com/markets/tesla/tesla-deliveries The betting markers for Q2 deliveries. They ended around 412k for Q1 if memory serves. Troy has a new update if you have Patreon access.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No, I based it on the fact that ~70 is 2% of 3,500 and that happens to line up with the right side of the Y axis. Sorry you don't know how to read graphs my guy.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You may also want to read the left side of the Y axis. Note that the cumulative trials (of whatever data sample was pulled) reaches nearly 3,500. 20% conversion rate would be ~700. 2% would be ~70. Where's that dark bar showing cumulative conversions? Oh yeah, nowhere near 700. I'll take an...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes...did you read it? They cited a Tesla employee.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Current U.S. GDP is ~$25 tn. Not a serious estimate.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Anyone know someone who works at the factory in Texas? This allegation made in The Information should be easy to refute if it's not true.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Perhaps people shouldn't be so quick to take his forward looking statements as the truth.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Have I missed all the stories of 12V battery failures from running nonstop?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Alleged FSD trial conversion data. So far looks like a <2% conversion rate.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For those who take Musk's tweets as definitive/authoritative "proof," consider the above three tweets, all of which are celebrating Elonversaries today. They were all false.
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    X App Discussion

    https://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-x-corp-loses-lawsuit-against-israeli-data-scraping-company-2024-05-10/
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-europe-registration-stats.61651/ Final EU April sales are in. <14k, which is down from January and April 2023. Where are/were the ~50k "in transit" vehicles as of 3/31? Of the April sales data we have they do not seem to appear, unless Tesla...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    https://carup.se/tesla-jagas-av-kronofogden-skyldiga-miljoner/#google_vignette This is quite amateur stuff imo.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How do you think current taxis operate?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon said the convoy driverless technology was something they could do "now" in 2017. They have a handful of Semis in their own fleet. Are they utilizing this already solved (as of seven years ago) technology? If not, am I allowed to say he lied about that?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    As I've been told many times, "will" is aspirational. I wouldn't call this authoritative, since if/when this doesn't come to fruition you can't say he "lied."
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Market is up because investors are pricing in / hoping for rate cuts sooner than anticipated.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    When was the last time an insider / executive bought Tesla stock on the open market? They're always just selling.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tweet is not entirely accurate - there are three job postings in the U.S. (one is an internship), about 25 postings in Germany, and three internships in the Netherlands.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Most of the premarket drop (presumably brought on by Reuters re-reporting their October 2022 story) has evaporated.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Piling up inventory is not good. They'll continue to scuttle production here and there so that supply drops more in line with demand, imo.