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  1. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    Meh. I give that spastic guy two middle fingers. Never did find him funny.
  2. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Just stopped by my local Tesla showroom in West MI. Had a CT on display that I could sit in. First time I’ve seen it in person. That thing is awesome. I don’t care what the haters say. Had at least 20 sitting on the lot just delivered and spoken for. The salesperson said sales are starting...
  3. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    Yup. Tesla/Elon shouldn’t have said the qtr mile and instead stuck with the 1/8. Just gives the haters fuel to point to that while they ignore how impressive the CT actually is even if it does “lose” to the Porsche in that scenario. Even Motortrend admitted that in their video. But I’m sure...
  4. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If/when Tesla can get the recurring revenue from robotaxi and Optimus with perhaps paid tasks, then Tesla will be in an apple like position and a Tim Cook can take over to streamline before going stale in a decade. Before then, I agree. Would be horrible if Elon left.
  5. S

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    I just think it’s a simple thank you. Doesn’t show pass or fail. People often read far too much into his tweets.
  6. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I didn’t pick the 40k out of the blue. That’s what Tesla advertised. Yes, I know inflation, etc and I don’t plan on seeing this number. However, with a tax credit, it might be achievable. The model 3 has certainly been a good price near the original advertised of 35k even with inflation. I...
  7. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yeah I know. But man, would be great though.
  8. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If Tesla can get the CT to 40k, they will fly off the lot. At 100k, sales will only go so far.
  9. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    ““At what point do you decide Tesla is bigger than Musk?” The entrepreneur has repeatedly claimed he never wanted to be CEO and hoped to step back and serve as chief product architect once the initial problems manufacturing the Model 3 were solved during the critical launch over six years ago.”...
  10. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It would be nice if Elon could “tone it down” on some things. But I don’t see that happening until maybe after the election. I don’t think he will buy another twitter or anything of that magnitude again. Hopefully the next big stuff is Tesla/SpaceX related.
  11. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And Leo is even wrong here. Elon was CEO of SpaceX before he was CEO for Tesla.
  12. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don’t think he will quit if it fails. The board can offer another package. And Elon has said for years he never wanted to be the CEO of Tesla. Nothing new there.
  13. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And again, a contract is a contract. The “resolution” it could lead to is losing even more. Leo wanted Elon ousted in Jan 2023. I never trust an Uber bull because when they go negative, they go negative hard. There’s no middle ground. Dangerous either way. I hope the following happens: 1...
  14. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The vote was for an agreement made. Elon held up his end. Leo profited. Mad or not about what happened since does NOT matter about THAT vote. He can scream, sure. But for Leo to go back on his agreement after Leo was rewarded, is wrong no matter how you slice it. And trust me, all the...
  15. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    They are screaming again now because the stock price is down from 300 in July. Elon didn’t sell any shares since July. And the plan passed in 2018 because it would be a massive win for shareholders even if it did cost a lot. The gains far exceeded the costs. Now post plan, there is no “gain”...
  16. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    In dec 2022 was when the stock was low and going lower. Then when the stock price was around 300 in July 2023, the screams lessened. Did Elon change between December of 2022 and July of 2023? No. Just shows it’s only about the stock price.
  17. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I wouldn’t trust Leo to make rational decisions. He’s very sketch, IMO. I find that people who are super BULLS, can easily flip and go super negative. One extreme to the other. Not good. My post below is from Jan 2023 and the stock did go back up to almost 300 again as well as the Model Y...
  18. S

    My 2014 Model S died again… needs a 3rd HV battery! (No warranty left)😩

    Yeah. I referenced him a few times and definitely egg on my face now. Sad.
  19. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Interesting perspective on the lawyer payout.
  20. S

    Selling my P100D soon want to know pricing thoughts

    Also check onlyusedtesla.com
  21. S

    The anti-Tesla EV lovers

    Chill mode
  22. S

    Tesla Unionization

  23. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No one who follows Elon should be surprised by his method of letting people go and subsequently rehiring some.
  24. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No. Just from her business account. Still has them in her personal account.
  25. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why would he? Tesla can offer a new package and if the previous one passes, it will be a miracle. Many people are not willing to keep their word. And there are many changes in share ownership since then.
  26. S

    The anti-Tesla EV lovers

    Model Y https://electrek.co/2024/02/27/tesla-model-y-2024-scores-near-perfect-iihs-crash-tests/#:~:text=The%20Tesla%20Model%20Y%202024,perfect%20in%20the%20crash%20tests.
  27. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I didn’t realize so many vehicles had low financing rates.
  28. S

    Yeah this sucks. [car accident]

    Yeah, I’d be surprised if they total it. But I’ve been wrong before.
  29. S

    Yeah this sucks. [car accident]

    Fuse for high voltage battery to cut off power.
  30. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I appreciate community notes.
  31. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The company itself is running better than before and more lean. Valuation is an arbitrary number largely based on fickle sentiment.
  32. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    He rehired some people at Twitter too after the mass layoffs. Two methods. 1. Slowly cut to get to the right team. 2. Cut big and rehire to get to the right team. Method one probably takes longer and may create more dissatisfaction over longer period. Gets rid of dead weight quicker...
  33. S

    Hertz charger $277 for *gasoline* to fill-up a Model 3

    Hertz EVs failed because of stupid stuff like this. Employees poorly trained or not trained at all. But of course EVs get the blame.
  34. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    To all the people saying “OMG!, it rusts!” Well here you go.
  35. S

    The demise of the OEMs

    I just wonder how long before Europe and other countries backtrack on their EV mandates.
  36. S

    The demise of the OEMs

    Definitely a retreat from EVs. Really sad.
  37. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    More importantly, it’s up over 13 THOUSAND percent on his watch. The stock went WAY TOO HIGH the first time. Nothing, not even “hopes and dreams” supported that price at that time. That has skewed the numbers dramatically. As far as the rest of the market being up 25%, take out the top 6...
  38. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It appears the @Papafox short increase post above was in correlation to this news coming out today. Some people certainly appear to be trading on early information.
  39. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Unfortunate indeed. But the Tesla numbers are skewed a bit due to SIXT it appears.
  40. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Well… Elon did mention a buyback.
  41. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon is following them both again. Can see them both in his following tab.
  42. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    A “super bull” means that even LONG term problems are not a “concern”. I am concerned about long term problems. Ie, Elon were to leave, FSD hit’s a dead end, etc. But short term issues like “OMG, Q1 sales dropped… sell, sell, SELL!!!”, mean nothing.
  43. S

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If I want to hear the bear thesis, I can find it practically everywhere else. Almost every media article, most X posts, most interviews on MSM and many other threads on this forum. Would be nice to have one thread that is full of bear spray. It’s good to understand the full picture but I find...
  44. S

    FSD 12.3 today - utter failure!

    WholeMars isn’t the best resource but Farzad had issues.
  45. S

    Entire Supercharging Team Fired?

    Musk should not be voted out. Just because he doesn’t conform to some peoples “opinions”, gets some facts wrong on X at times and that Tesla has hit a bit of a rough patch with the stock and sales (even though last year sales did very well), doesn’t mean people should overreact and say FIRE...
  46. S

    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    Buoyed by roughly 6 companies. Most of the market hasn’t recovered from 2022. Can see some of this by looking at the Russell 2000 index.
  47. S

    Entire Supercharging Team Fired?

    Someone needs to put up a death clock website of the imminent failure of the supercharger network! /s
  48. S

    Entire Supercharging Team Fired?

    Aspirational goals. Take it with a grain of salt then. If people are “concerned” or will later throw shade for not making the goals, don’t buy a product based on “aspirational goals”. Only buy a product for what it does TODAY.
  49. S

    Entire Supercharging Team Fired?

    No it isn’t naive. People can buy the product. Use the product. And not have any idea what the CEO is doing. That is true for any and every product available. Now IF you WANT to know all that is going on with said product, then yes. But most don’t give a 💩.