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Bouncing clunk type noise after Koni Special Active Install

Back at the end of March, I installed Koni Special Active shocks on my otherwise stock 2020 Model Y Dual motor.
I have this clunk, bouncing, bump sound over small bumps coming from the front end. I can hear it at low speeds, but this could be because of other noises at higher speeds (not sure).

I have checked all the torques related to the install and they are all tight. I have had a shop look at it as well and come to the same conclusion.

I have recently replaced all my front lower control arms and they look good.

The upper control arms do not have play or make any noise either. For good measure, I replaced both the nut and the bolt on the connection to the upper control arm ball joint.

I removed the end links completely from the car and the sound remains. They also do not have any play.

The upper strut bolt was installed holding the rod in place with a 5mm Allen key on a ratchet.

Has anyone else come across this before and possibly have a solution?

I have a few videos of the sound, but am not sure how to upload it.

One video is from the steering wheel, and two more from each of the front wheel wells. I can hear the bumping sound in both wheel wells.

Using AI to improve wipe malfunction

I'm writing to propose an enhancement to the AI algorithms that control the automatic windshield wipers in Tesla vehicles. I've noticed, along with others in the community, that the wipers sometimes activate unexpectedly in conditions such as bright sunlight, which seems to be due to the cameras mistaking reflections or other visual artifacts for raindrops.

Proposal:I suggest an improvement in the AI's image recognition capabilities to more accurately distinguish between actual raindrops and other misleading visual signals. By refining the neural networks to understand context more effectively—considering variables such as weather conditions, light levels, and time of day—Tesla can enhance the functionality and reliability of the auto-wiper system.

Potential Benefits:

  1. Enhanced Driver Comfort and Convenience: By reducing false positives in wiper activation, drivers would experience fewer distractions and more consistent behavior from their vehicle’s automation.
  2. Safety Improvements: More accurate wiper activation directly correlates with better visibility and safer driving conditions.
  3. Customer Satisfaction: Fine-tuning this feature would underscore Tesla's commitment to leveraging cutting-edge technology to continuously improve the driving experience.

Updated to v12, 2024.14.6 with FSD and it's awesome!

Very early this morning I got the notification that the update was available for my car. I took it for a little drive and love all the changes. Has anyone else gotten the update? I can't get the trunk to auto open when I'm behind it and I don't have the Summon option. 😢 I'm still playing with it though. I'd love to hear other's thoughts on the upgrades and changes!

Tesla power wall in Tesla app. What am I really seeing?

I recently had a Tesla Power Wall installed at my other house in Auburn, CA. 4 KW of solar.

What I cannot make sense of is when the solar is putting out more power, the app shows the house is using more power. Does this all the time. It can show the house as drawing 0.4 KW (400 watts ) as the sun comes up, solar supplying it all. Nothing shown from any other path coming or going (neither battery nor grid power). As the sun comes up a bit more, the solar panels put out 2 KW. Nothing is changing in the house (AFAIK) and then the house draws more than 1.5KW and then only 500 watts go back to the grid.

So does my house draw 400 or 1,500 watts when no real loads (not even a light on, compressors in refrigerator not running, etc).

What am I not seeing in the Tesla app? IOW, why would the house draw more just because the solar is putting out more power?

-Don- Reno, NV

Advanced Autopilot gone?

Hi all - new here. Just purchase a MYLR and at the time it included Advanced autopilot. I had a seat repair that took *forever* and just got the car back to see that it is gone but I can upgrade to FSD for 2k. I saw an article from Tesla stating this but it didn’t provide too much information. I’m hoping someone here might have a little insight as it wasn’t really explained to me at delivery. Thanks in advance!

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Did I Just Get Unlucky?

My coworker recently got a model Y - everything was great. Based on that experience, I convinced my husband to get one - and everything was great. So *I* got one - I love the car but am running into issues. Already had one service appointment, and another is scheduled 2 weeks out (which is another issue all together).

Original issues:

  • Chirping noise coming from windshield - fixed at last service appointment
  • Vibrating driver's side mirror - fixed at last service appointment
  • Something sliding around in the driver's side dash HVAC vent - it's been happening less and less since I got the car, but they couldn't replicate it, so they didn't fix it - still happening
  • Water ingress into the trunk seal - they said it was fixed, but it's still happening
  • My Tesla driver's profile keeps resetting - they had me reset it from the app and I thought that fixed it, but the issue has come back
Current issues:

  • The water ingress into the trunk - do i need to be worried about this doing damage?
  • The something sliding around in the driver's side dash HVAC vent
  • A constant loud squeaking coming from the driver's side door that goes away if you press on the inside front of the door (maybe from disassembling the door to replace the mirror?)
  • A loud whistle above 50 mph (and the black triangle the new mirror is mounted on is loose - not sure if related)
I LOVE the car, but these are making me second guess my choice. Did I just get unlucky/should I trust they'll eventually get all the issues fixed?

No Cabin Air Filter

Although my car is nearly 4 years old, it has less than 30K miles. Replacing the cabin air filter today, and found that there never was one installed by the Tesla factory when new. I am pissed. They should give me back the $34 I spent on a new one. Hope this omission for the last 4 years won't harm my car much in the future, as I plan on keeping it. I guess the original HEPA filter if it was installed at the factory would help minimize damage, and will find out tomorrow if it is also missing.

Powerwalls ignoring settings

I have 2 of Powerwall 2 (I believe plus version) installed with an existing small solar array (3.3 kW). For the most part the Powerwalls were installed to have peace of mind if there was an outage. It seems that whatever settings are being completely ignored and if anything, the batteries are doing the opposite. I have it set to only use the upper 20% of the battery and the rest is set for reserve (should only use 80-100% range). I have it set to self-powered and not charging from the grid. My vehicle charging is set to only use battery to charge if it's above 80% but that should only matter during grid outage.

If the battery is at a higher state of charge say 90% and there is significant load from the house (say dryer going and wall connector going for a total of 17 kW) the system will work as normal pulling 10 kW from the battery and the rest from solar or grid. But after a few minutes it switches to do the reverse: the battery wants to charge from the grid at 11.5 kW even though the battery is above 80%. The expected behavior should be to use all the batteries can provide (10 kW) and grid/solar should provide any remaining kW until the batteries are depleted to the reserve percentage, then grid/solar should take over the load completely.

What is likely to be the issue?

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FSD transfer question. 2018 Model 3 with FSD totaled.

I purchased FSD for my 2018 Model 3 a few years ago, and, of course, just when it was getting pretty good...about two weeks ago, some lady crashed into my car. Her insurance company accepted full liability but today we got the estimate for repair and it's over $30K, so the insurance company is going to total the car.

I know that FSD is generally pretty devalued when it comes to resale, so it kind of sucks that I will not get to use this thing that I paid $7K for back in the day and will probably not get back anything near what I paid for it.

I was thinking about begging for an FSD transfer to a new purchase. I see some older threads about this but they predate FSD transfer offers altogether. Just curious if anyone has any more recent experience along these lines? Am I pretty much out of luck?

Would be a very strong argument in favor of the FSD subscription model. I don't know why you would ever buy it if you can lose it all in a crash at any moment.

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Dead 2013 Tesla S

My 2013 Model S 85, purchase used about 3 years ago at 45,000 miles, now with 102,755, with no issues over the nearly 60,000 miles I have put on it, suddenly will not turn on. The 12V was replaced in summer of 2021 by Tesla mobile (car gave me the appropriate warning that it needed to be replaced soon), and is now the only thing that seems to work correctly - neither the center console nor the instrument cluster turns on when the door opens, but the lights all function, turn signals work, and when I press the brake, i hear a familiar humming that I always assume is the main computer booting up, but no displays come on, and I cannot shift out of park. I had used the car like normal the day before, parked in my driveway and plugged in to charge as usual. I received the normal alert at night telling me charging was complete, but when tried to use the car the next day, it was unresponsive.
Tesla service has been no help - either mobile service does not exist anymore, or because my HV battery is now out of warranty, mobile service is not an option for me. I was told to speak to the service center (by a reputable non-Tesla EV repair shop), as they could remotely review the logs and determine if the battery pack had an issue or not leading up to this, but after multiple attempts to reach someone, I was finally told that they COULD do that, but would not do it until I figured out how to get the vehicle to them.
Are there any DIY options for troubleshooting before I have it hauled there, that might give me an idea of what I am dealing with? if it is the main CPU, for instance, I believe that could be replaced by my non-Tesla EV shop that will procure and install used parts for much less, but they are 50 miles away, so its not worth hauling there if it is something more serious and I have a truly dead vehicle on my hands. If it is the HV battery, and I am looking at full replacement out of warranty, I have to consider other options, and do not want to have paid to haul it 50 miles away, only to have to haul it somewhere else again.

Tesla FSD V12 vs Mercedes Driver Assist Video by Whole Mars Catalog on YouTube.com

According to Whole Mars Catalog, a Consumer Reports recent review rated Mercedes-Benz Driver Assistance with a higher score than Tesla Autopilot.

Probably not a fair comparison when using FSD V12.3.6, but quite funny to watch none the less..

YouTube.com Whole Mars Catalog Vid

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Why didn't Tesla offer a non-stagger wheel option for the MYP?

I apologize if this question has been asked before, but I'm wondering why Tesla doesn't offer a non-staggered wheel/tire set for the Model Y Performance. I understand that "Performance" to them means better grip and cornering, but what about people like me who just want the power of the Model Y Performance for regular city and highway driving? I simply want the features of an SUV with more power than my M3LR.

Personally, I utilize my car's power while driving at higher speeds and rarely from a complete stop, unless I need to overtake someone before a lane merge. Therefore, I don't require different width tires and thinner sidewalls, and it seems like I'm not the only one. Sure, I could opt for the Model Y Long Range and then pay an additional $2000 for the Acceleration Boost, but I'm not a fan of the 19'' Gemini Wheels and I don't want to spend another $2000 for the 20'' Induction Wheels. The Long Range also lacks a carbon fiber tail, sits higher, and has the same power with AB as my M3LR. I want the Performance version, but I don't want to deal with the shorter tread life and extra cost associated with that specific tire style and size.

For people like me who prefer a squared setup, why isn't the option available when ordering? Many individuals on various forums who have made the switch claim that nothing else is affected. If it's a speed rating issue that Tesla doesn't support, aren't there "normal" tires out there with the appropriate load indexes and speed ratings? If not, then I can understand why Tesla doesn't offer it.

It's just such a waste of time and money to have to purchase a third-party set of "normal" tires and rims, pay to have everything switched over, and then deal with selling the brand new 21'' Uberturbine set that people are now hesitant to pay full price for. This means even more money out of my pocket, especially since TSportline charges $3,700 for their cheapest TSV 19'' Induction tire package set.

Wouldn't it be more logical if Tesla could simply provide two rim options for different drivers?

Model S (2019) vs Model 3 (2021)

Hi

I’m looking to buy a Tesla as my first electric car. Am thinking Model 3 or Model S.

Browsing adverts, I see that a decent 2021 M3LR with about 30-40k miles on the clock can be had for £24-6k now and a reasonable Raven Model S 2019 with 50-60k thousand miles can be had for just shy of 30 thousand pounds.

I am tempted by the Model S for larger boot space, hatchback and, in my personal opinion, better looks.But I worry about reliability.

Are there any good reasons to have a Model 3 over a Model S (other than the price)? Super Charging speed seems to not be that much different – a matter of minutes, if A Better Route Planner is accurate. Are repair costs and reliability a big difference between the two given higher mileage of Model S?

Any thoughts/preferences/experiences to share?

Many thanks!

I am frankly shocked by how stunningly ugly the Cybertruck is

... by how stunningly ugly the Cybertruck is. Seeing it in person on the road is even more retina-burning than seeing it in pictures or on the internet. I realize beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but how this thing got past the designers and then Musk's approval is beyond my imagination. It looks like something someone cobbled together in their back shed over many beers on weekends, and it is so far from the styling of the rest of the brand's vehicles that it surely must be the best practical joke a carmaker has pulled on the car-buying public since the Edsel.

Give me a Model 3 any day.

2023 Model Y A/C - is it me or is it crap

Hi All,

So we finally have some nice weather, and I like to keep my car cold. However my Model Y even when set to LO is just not kicking out that cold air.

Il add to the fact that it isn’t cold, the directional fans in the front don’t seem to point where I face them in the screen.

Has anyone noticed/had any issues? Considering raising a service request!

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The hits keep on coming!

Exclusive: In Tesla Autopilot probe, US prosecutors focus on securities, wire fraud

May 8 (Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors are examining whether Tesla (TSLA.O), opens new tab committed securities or wire fraud by misleading investors and consumers about its electric vehicles’ self-driving capabilities, three people familiar with the matter told Reuters.
Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving systems assist with steering, braking and lane changes - but are not fully autonomous. While Tesla has warned drivers to stay ready to take over driving, the Justice Department is examining other statements by Tesla and Chief Executive Elon Musk suggesting its cars can drive themselves.

U.S. regulators have separately investigated hundreds of crashes, including fatal ones, that have occurred in Teslas with Autopilot engaged, resulting in a mass recall by the automaker. Reuters exclusively reported the U.S. criminal investigation into Tesla in October 2022, and is now the first to report the specific criminal liability federal prosecutors are examining. Investigators are exploring whether Tesla committed wire fraud, which involves deception in interstate communications, by misleading consumers about its driver-assistance systems, the sources said. They are also examining whether Tesla committed securities fraud by deceiving investors, two of the sources said.

The Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating Tesla's representations about driver-assistance systems to investors, one of the people said. The SEC declined to comment. Tesla did not respond to a request for comment. Last October, it disclosed in a filing that the Justice Department had asked the company for information about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving. The Justice Department declined to comment.

The probe, which is not evidence of wrongdoing, could result in criminal charges, civil sanctions, or no action. Prosecutors are far from deciding how to proceed, one of the sources said, in part because they are sifting through voluminous documents Tesla provided in response to subpoenas. Reuters could not determine the specific statements prosecutors are reviewing as potentially illegal. Musk has aggressively touted the prowess of Tesla’s driver-assistance technology for nearly a decade.

Tesla videos demonstrating the technology that remain archived, opens new tab on its website, opens new tab say: "The person in the driver’s seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself." A Tesla engineer testified in 2022 in a lawsuit over a fatal crash involving Autopilot that one of the videos, posted in October 2016, intended to show the technology’s potential and did not accurately portray its capabilities at the time. Musk nevertheless posted the video on social media, writing: “Tesla drives itself (no human input at all) thru urban streets to highway streets, then finds a parking spot.”
In a conference call with reporters in 2016, Musk described Autopilot as “probably better” than a human driver. During an October 2022 call, Musk addressed a forthcoming FSD upgrade he said would allow customers to travel “to your work, your friend’s house, to the grocery store without you touching the wheel.”
Musk is increasingly focused on self-driving technology as Tesla's car sales and profit slump. Tesla recently slashed costs through mass layoffs and shelved plans for a long-awaited $25,000 model that had been expected to drive sales growth.

“Going balls to the wall for autonomy is a blindingly obvious move,” the billionaire executive posted on his social-media platform X in mid-April. Tesla shares, down more than 29% so far this year, surged in late April when Musk visited China and made progress toward approvals to sell FSD there.
Musk has repeatedly promised self-driving Teslas for about a decade. "Mere failure to realize a long-term, aspirational goal is not fraud," Tesla lawyers said in a 2022 court filing.
Tesla Model 3 drives on autopilot along California freeway



LEGAL CHALLENGES​

Prosecutors scrutinizing Tesla’s autonomous-car claims are proceeding with caution, recognizing the legal hurdles they face, the people familiar with the inquiry said.
They will need to demonstrate that Tesla’s claims crossed a line from legal salesmanship to material and knowingly false statements that unlawfully harmed consumers or investors, three legal experts uninvolved in the probe told Reuters.
U.S. courts previously have ruled that “puffery” or “corporate optimism” regarding product claims do not amount to fraud. In 2008, a federal appeals court ruled that statements of corporate optimism alone do not demonstrate that a company official intentionally misled investors.
Justice Department officials will likely seek internal Tesla communications as evidence that Musk or others knew they were making false statements, said Daniel Richman, a Columbia Law School professor and former federal prosecutor. That is a challenge, Richman said, but the safety risk involved in overselling self-driving systems also “speaks to the seriousness with which prosecutors, a judge and jury would take the statements.”

FATAL CRASHES
Tesla’s claims about Autopilot and FSD have also drawn scrutiny in regulatory investigations and lawsuits.
Safety regulators and courts have raised concerns in recent months that corporate messaging about the technology - including the brand names Autopilot and Full Self-Driving - have imbued customers with a false sense of security. In April, the Washington State Patrol arrested a man on suspicion of vehicular homicide after his Tesla, with Autopilot engaged, struck and killed a motorcyclist while the driver looked at his phone, police records show. In a probable-cause statement, a trooper cited the driver’s “admitted inattention to driving, while on autopilot mode ... putting trust in the machine to drive for him.” In Washington state, a driver remains "responsible for the safe and legal operation of that vehicle" regardless of its technological capabilities, a state patrol spokesperson told Reuters.
The same month, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration launched an investigation into whether a Tesla recall of more than 2 million vehicles in December adequately addressed safety issues with Autopilot. NHTSA declined to comment.

After this story was published, U.S. Senator Edward Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat and longstanding critic of the company's driver-assistance systems, said in a statement posted on X that he was "glad to see" NHTSA and Justice Department officials "getting tough on Tesla over these dangers."
The recall followed a long-running probe opened by regulators after cars with Autopilot engaged repeatedly crashed into vehicles at first-responder emergency scenes. Regulators subsequently examined hundreds of crashes where Autopilot was engaged and identified 14 deaths and 54 injuries.
Tesla disputed NHTSA's findings but agreed to the recall, which employed over-the-air software updates intended to alert inattentive drivers.
The NHTSA investigation found “a critical safety gap between drivers’ expectations” of Tesla’s technology “and the system’s true capabilities,” according to agency records. “This gap led to foreseeable misuse and avoidable crashes.”

parallel universe: assume $ is not an issue (gas, payments, etc.), would you still insist driving MX/MXP SUV over say BMW X7 SUV 100% fully optioned ?

Yeah, i know.

But given your experiences in owning MX/MXP, would you insist on driving the EV over BMW X7 (say their inline 6, xDrive40i) fully decked to 100% fully optioned, assuming $ is no objection?

Comes down to owning/driving EV SUV over the ICE SUV such as BMW X7?

As a comparison, fully decked out X7 xDrive40i is around $107,975 MSRP (including destination charge). Of course no one pays this amount, so after usual discount, the price comes down to about where say MXP is with optioned interior to say the Cream interior.

So, as question stands, taking out the mpg/gas $ and charging/range "overheads/anxiety" out of the way, based on everything else what's left (eg. driving dynamics, quality, fit/finish, service, customer service, apps, software, hardware, driving assistants, autonomous driving, wipers, resale value, depreciation, luxury, look, cargo space, cabin space, etc. etc. etc.) to compare between these 2 premium SUV's, would you (if you were to do over) choose MX/MXP alone?

And yes, Tesla is #1 in $ to maintain, according to latest Consumer Report, whereas BMW as expected is the "worst".

But also considering battery longevity, assuming you are keeping the car well past 200K miles, for next 10 to 12 years.

Base warranty is the same, 4 years, 50K miles. And BMW includes first year scheduled maintenances included in purchase of vehicle.

Now, for MXP (which is what i'm after), obviously 0-60 is no comparison. So if that is important to you then yeah, hands on MXP is the winner.

Size and weight are "about" the same.

But comparing everything else, how about it?


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Hertz charger $277 for *gasoline* to fill-up a Model 3

This is head scratcher.
Charging $277 for gasoline fill-up a Model 3 (and $277 is at least 55 gallons worth of gas!!)

Hertz Charges Tesla Model 3 Renter $277 Fee for Gas, Won’t Back Down

On top of the, the renter also paid ahead for fill-up, so should not have even received that charge!

(PS, a topic section for RENTALS would be nice)

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