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Mine is set to average and it never comes to a full stop at a stop sign IF there are no other cars around.FWIW mine (on average) never did one- if anything it always handled intersection turns WAY too slowly- to the point I usually had to manually disengage and do the turn myself if anyone was behind me.
I believe the idea is that if it behaves more like humans, its behavior is more predictable by other drivers.Not knowing about this feature, I guess I would ask... if your goal is to perform 1000 safer than the average human driver,
why would you program a car that could roll through stop signs or exceeds the speed limits?
Yeah, I think that is the main question. The Jalopnik article had many people against allowing rolling stop, but many of them are the same people that would be up in arms if every car was forced to follow the speed limit.Is this a slippery slope? If your FSD is not allowed to do a rolling stop, then what next? What about 5 miles above city speed limit allowance? What about 90 or 80 MPH allowance on freeways that are mostly legal at 65 MPH?
It only affects FSD beta cars. So yes.Tesla recalls all 53,822 vehicles with its 'full self-driving' feature
Tesla will recall all 53,822 vehicles with its "full self-driving" driver-assist feature after it was intentionally programmed to slowly roll through stop signs in some scenarios.edition.cnn.com
Will this only be for US cars?
It's not a gray area in California, the cops can write you a ticket for going 1 mph over the limit, California has a strict speed limit, yet few people follow it. The mechanism allowing this behavior is the same as for rolling stops: enforcement is lax because of so many people doing the same thing.If you allow the car to drive by itself then you are turning over control and the car will drive based on the rules it is given. Right now AP limits your speed to no more than 5-MPH over the speed limit on side roads (city streets). If you do not like the way the car drives then you should just drive it yourself.
BTW, rolling stops are flat out illegal while speeding is a grey area. In Georgia only State Police can write a ticket for less than 10-MPH over the limit!
You could certainly be right but by the time 10.2 came out the faster California role at 5+mph was already included in FSD so the damage was done especially with all the Youtube videos highlighting the fast rolling stops. One wonders if the same attention would have happened if the rolling stops had been initially been at 1-2mph.Ive been on every version since 10.2 and since they added the aggressive setting, I’ve never seen it roll at more than 1-2mph.
I really wish they didn’t advertise the rolling stops. Once the media outlets picked it up, it was just a matter of time before NHTSA came knocking. They should at least leave it for us Californians. California Rolls are basically the unspoken law here
It's a bit more tricky. Drivers are generally expected to flow with traffic even if traffic is speeding. So the vehicle may need to speed and only slow down when it _is_ the traffic flow.Is this a slippery slope? If your FSD is not allowed to do a rolling stop, then what next? What about 5 miles above city speed limit allowance? What about 90 or 80 MPH allowance on freeways that are mostly legal at 65 MPH?
What about U-turns (which I don't think FSD does yet) but is illegal in many places, legal in some, people often do them anyway.Yeah, I think that is the main question. The Jalopnik article had many people against allowing rolling stop, but many of them are the same people that would be up in arms if every car was forced to follow the speed limit.
What about U-turns (which I don't think FSD does yet)...
if you don’t know if you have beta, you don’t have beta.Not sure what the difference is between FSD Beta and my version of FSD
Has anyone asked who is responsible for tickets that would be given because the car is doing rolling stops or doing things that can result in a ticket? If the car is programmed to do that, would it actually be responsibility of Tesla to pay for the ticket if they are knowingly implementing an illegal maneuver?