TessP100D
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What… you can’t do math?Good ole Hugh Depreciation. Does he work for Gordon Johnson?
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What… you can’t do math?Good ole Hugh Depreciation. Does he work for Gordon Johnson?
Cybertruck insurance premiums will be astronomical once insurers realize the complexity and costs to repair such a unique niche vehicle... per the CT forum USAA has the CT in their system and quotes $200+ / month (they are a very good insurer) and Tesla insurance is $160+ month but we know it only will go up from there.How are you still a Beta Tester? Tesla is no longer a Startup.. is that really treating you great?
Your paying a $20k markup right now, the only thing you aren’t doing is talking to someone face to face
You’re voting for mediocrity from a company that can do better.
Yep… made enough to cover my CT by pushing Prep HStarting?!
The amount of trolling these fools got y’all to bite into and feed everyday all day, is wild.
the skimresources link was a bit sneaky. did you do that or is that a forum thing? Trying to understand who’s trying to get paid from potential traffic.
So there isn't suppose to be any discussion about CT issues? It's been 4 years, over promised, under delivered, and some don't see a need to discuss it?
I get that there may not be enough positive CT threads/topics but that isn't the fault of TMC members.
Probably a good idea to ban this one... Reporting to mods.JFC, now we have Fanbois bumping threads i bump, so they can whine and complain we are not bowing to the big T.
I am not "hurt" over the stupid customer service, i just want their mistake to cost them more then they tried to rip me off. I don't car what car I drive.
Didn’t click your link. Thought it to be silly that someone would put a referral link, sort of like the old school days here when referral IDs would be spammed.Yep… made enough to cover my CT by pushing Prep H
$200+ is not bad for right now...our 2014 model s is $250 through SF in FL. But like you mentioned, insurers learned the cost of repair the early model S' and jacked up the prices. Will be interesting to track CT insurance rates over the next 24-months.Cybertruck insurance premiums will be astronomical once insurers realize the complexity and costs to repair such a unique niche vehicle... per the CT forum USAA has the CT in their system and quotes $200+ / month (they are a very good insurer) and Tesla insurance is $160+ month but we know it only will go up from there.
trying to figure out what type of person spends time bashing on a vehicle they don’t intend to buy… a vehicle they’ve never touched or seen for that matter… do you also post negative reviews on Amazon for items you never purchased?
yeah, $200/mo doesn't seem inappropriate considering it insures a car with replacement value of $100k + / - wholesale adjustments.
agree with all, Except expecting a luxury vehicle (most people are buying CTs as a statement vehicle, with some side benefits of doing stuff if we're being honest) to not depreciate is unreasonable.It isn't horrible, except it's more than double what I pay for insurance on an $87K F150. Now consider this, driving 20K miles/ year I spend less than $2.5K/ annually on fuel or $208/ month.
Once you consider the higher insurance costs, extreme tire wear from special low tread EV tires that wear quickly, higher registration costs in many states ($200 extra/ year in TX), cost of setting up Level 2 charging at home, inconvenience, the real-world higher maintenance costs with EVs, loss of capability, extreme depreciation, where is the EV savings?
I don't consider myself a basher as much as a realist and I still think the CT looks dope as hell.
Thing is, like many others, I had a CT deposit and was excited about the possibilities. When I placed that deposit, I didn't understand EV's particularly well…
I know I will have to wait a while but I'm interested in the used resale value of the Cybertruck in 3 to 5 years. How much range will it have Towing and empty? Will people looking for a used Truck that will meet their needs purchase an ICE Truck or the Cybertruck?
I have to counterpoint a few things here. Insurance could be more, especially for something like the Cybertruck. But, that's not always the case. While we bounce around a bit between insurers, our Tesla Model S and Model 3 have had okay insurance prices.It isn't horrible, except it's more than double what I pay for insurance on an $87K F150. Now consider this, driving 20K miles/ year I spend less than $2.5K/ annually on fuel or $208/ month.
Once you consider the higher insurance costs, extreme tire wear from special low tread EV tires that wear quickly, higher registration costs in many states ($200 extra/ year in TX), cost of setting up Level 2 charging at home, inconvenience, the real-world higher maintenance costs with EVs, loss of capability, extreme depreciation, where is the EV savings?
I agree. To add, it's not just the DC recharge time, it's the battery life and replacement cost. IMO, That is a bigger deal then the DC charging time. The underlying battery technology is the same across manufacturers, and the calendar aging of batteries is a real thing. We are seeing low mileage EV's with the battery reaching EOL around the 10 year mark. The range on my 7 year old EV has degraded by ~20% from when new, and when it eventually fails it will be prohibitively expensive to fix. The average (non-enthusiast) vehicle buyer just isn't going to tolerate that. GM seems to be the only maker on the right track there, as small battery sections can be replaced (at a lower cost) verses the entire pack with their Ultium system. Ten years ago when I bought my first EV, people were saying then that the cost would come down to no different than a transmission replacement. That didn't come to be. Batteries still have a very long way to go.I appreciate your well balanced post.
I often wonder why people think there will be ongoing small improvements to the 4680 form, and use it as justification to buy an inferior product now? yes inferior is what I mean, Elon flat out said it would have 500 miles of range +, and he failed because he doesn’t have the battery tech.
outside the bubble of the Tesla World, nobody wants to buy electric cars because of the battery’s. I feel we are a decade away from having batteries that actually provide enough power and recharge fast enough for the main stream to sign on to.
it’s about the battlers and has always has been. We may never get there. Tesla batteries are no better than anybody else are, despite what Elon said in battery day A few years back. The next Trillion-Aire will be the guy who actually solves the mystery.
Second post today.
I ordered my MS LR Red in November,
in January I was assigned 2023 Vin, due to medical reasons I put my order on hold, hold finished on January 18th, and waiting for VIN since then
Now tesla started to charge extra for the color option, so today I saw my config on existing inventory on my service center for $2500 higher price, I called them if i can pick it up, and they told me only if pay $2,500 more.
And more: sales rep told me, since I ordered 2023 Tesla, and tesla do not produce 2023 cars anymore, even my order still waiting for VIn assignment, I will never get VIN assigned since that price is not available anymore!!!!!
So if i dont accept to pay the new price I will not get a new car.
Is that correct? if not how come a sales person lie like this?
Yet another useless reply.Yet another that didn't bother to read and comprehend OP's question...