As a runabout town, second car that would be excellent...
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This calculation works fine for fleets, and it will be a while before any individual owner operators will purchase these because they will need a Megacharging network (So will some fleets.)
Megachargers + Megapacks + Solar on distribution center roof -> profit center
BYD is not making money on these. They are being that China Wok #1 which killed the pricing power of Chinese food vs any other cuisine type, now being cheaper than MCD.
Hence this is why they are not interested in the US market most likely because people here are not interested in slow low quality cars.
BYD is not interested in United States' EV market: Exec. VP
BYD Auto (BYDDY, 1211.HK) recently showcased its new, all-electric supercar — the Yangwang U9 — which will cost more than $230,000. The Chinese automaker has recently begun to catch up, and even surpassed, EV giant Tesla (TSLA) as the world's biggest manufacturer of EVs. However, the company has...finance.yahoo.com
It's possible BYD has already calculated legacy ICE market will die in the US without their help. And partially because Tesla will crush it for them... to compete another day in the future when the field has leveled out some. And if legacy can't sell in China, maybe that's game over all by itself.
Isn't there a Big Short coming on legacy soon, maybe even end of this year? Oh, I know... they'll just keep buying back shares?
i really hope this is staged ... starting to regret my FS order ... not an attention seeker by nature but i do need a new truck
what a great problem to have ... this is insane
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
I think this Waymo/SFO ride-along makes three things abundantly clear for the upcoming Robotaxi Network:
BTW, this wasn't a "wild ride" per ABC's clickbait title, but it was uncomfortable and inconvenient. This fare included two remote human interventions, including a re-route which ultimately brought the car back to the same (wrong) destination.
Not acceptable service just yet, IMO.
- NAV data/Maps needs to be improved, focusing on pick-up / drop-off locations,
- providing Interactive Maps will greatly improve the user-experience, and
- a Large-Language Model (LLM) will be required as the passenger needs/expects to be able to speak to the operator (whether human, or robot)
BTW, this wasn't a "wild ride" per ABC's clickbait title, but it was uncomfortable and inconvenient. This fare included two remote human interventions, including a re-route which ultimately brought the car back to the same (wrong) destination.
Not acceptable service just yet, IMO.
Figure.Ai dropping some impressive demo videos of their robot doing autonomous tasks. Not a surprise they recently got buy in from a lot of high profile investors.
No idea who is further ahead, Tesla or Figure, but both are showcasing some great stuff, and I am guessing competing for the same talent (Figure probably has the advantage their somewhat with stock options likely with far higher return potential)
No idea who is further ahead, Tesla or Figure, but both are showcasing some great stuff, and I am guessing competing for the same talent (Figure probably has the advantage their somewhat with stock options likely with far higher return potential)
insaneoctane
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I just can't see a Ford version of this "F.....one fifty......F......one fifty"
Stretch2727
Engineer and Car Nut
Cool new video summarizing the 7 manufacturing plants.
Interesting. I found its little hand motions as it sees the bin off rather adorable (honestly, not being sarcastic).
As with electric cars, there will be many metrics to evaluate "success" for humanoid robots. I think the most important are, in no particular order, the bot's capabilities, price, manufacturability and the actual production goals/numbers.
It doesn't matter much if Company A designs a bot with more capabilities than Company B, if A's bot is 10x the price or they only plan to make dozens or even hundreds per year. Even if Company A makes a bot that comes in at half the price of Company B, it still won't matter if A doesn't plan on producing big numbers.
We all know the Chevy Bolt beat the Model 3 to market, with roughly similar range, and a lower price...but Chevy never planned to make very many. The fact that Tesla actually planned and built the factories to make 100's of thousands per year is a big reason why the Model 3 and later the Model Y outsold the Chevy, even at a higher price.
Similarly, we know one of Tesla's stated goals with Optimus is to design every part so it can be mass manufactured cheaply. Tesla is already planning for the price, manufacturabilty, and mass production, while working on developing capabilities. Any other company also focusing on all of those at least has a chance of mass market success.
Krugerrand
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Not if you want to get anywhere on this side of the ocean. I’d have to push it up my mountain or tow it with my CT. And nobody here is taking it on a highway across the midwest when everyone is already driving faster than its top speed.
It’ll definitely work for you and your fellow compadres. In cities and on tight roadways. It’ll never be a car for NA - or the Autobahn.
I, personally, wouldn’t get in a vehicle that small. They make bears and moose bigger than it and with more horsepower. And I’m pretty sure both could beat the 0-60 time. Zero use for me, but BYD should definitely try and sell as many as possible.
From what has been made public knowledge, it almost seems to me like Figure AI might be ahead of Tesla Optimus with regards to the AI, but Optimus is ahead with regards to the hardware. Optimus might be doing more practical work than we've been shown, that's a possibility.
It is pretty clear both Tesla and Figure AI are close to each other in progress though, and both are improving very quickly. When it comes time to manufacture the humanoids Tesla will have a massive advantage over everyone else. Thankfully this new humanoid market will have room for many manufacturers, as once the ball starts rolling the demand will be unlimited for a very long time.
Ha, for fun, I think I know what happened at that green light. This is possibly a LIDAR and/or Camera obstruction. There's a utility power line in front of the light. I bet there was a stopped car in front just when it turned green.
Meanwhile, the screen on the dash shows a yellow light. Confused what (or where) it was, default might be yellow. The image matches the scene, so that's likely a live rendering. The light also appears close to the vehicle - on this side of the street.
Ya, this is pretty bad IMO, considering it's all pre-mapped out and the light looks just fine in the shot.
What is Creep for the Daily Double?
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
"ERCOT certifies Giga Texas Megapack site; Battery Cathode Plant is Ready." 26 Feb 2024 Giga Texas Update (09:35AM) | Joe Tegtmeyer (cued to 10:58)
New cathode materials could support an increase in 4680 cell production, as well as a step-wise improvement in cell energy density. The precence of of "cell test lab" on the NE corner means that a pipeline of new chemistry improvements is planned. Higher'n'Faster.
Joe also plans to document Tesla's Lithium refinery progress in Corpus Christi sometime during March (pending Starship IFT3 announcement).
Cheers!
New cathode materials could support an increase in 4680 cell production, as well as a step-wise improvement in cell energy density. The precence of of "cell test lab" on the NE corner means that a pipeline of new chemistry improvements is planned. Higher'n'Faster.
Joe also plans to document Tesla's Lithium refinery progress in Corpus Christi sometime during March (pending Starship IFT3 announcement).
Cheers!
The company that has all the supply chain lined up, machines built to build parts that doesn't exist, and has an assembly line that can churn these by the hundreds of thousands while pricing it at something affordable with a 25%+ gross margin. Prototypes are easy...
Also 26:24 - "We will soon see an Armada of Cybertrucks" - so boat mode confirmed.."ERCOT certifies Giga Texas Megapack site; Battery Cathode Plant is Ready." 26 Feb 2024 Giga Texas Update (09:35AM) | Joe Tegtmeyer (cued to 10:58)
New cathode materials could support an increase in 4680 cell production, as well as a step-wise improvement in cell energy density. The precence of of "cell test lab" on the NE corner means that a pipeline of new chemistry improvements is planned. Higher'n'Faster.
Joe also plans to document Tesla's Lithium refinery progress in Corpus Christi sometime during March (pending Starship IFT3 announcement).
Cheers!
I figured factories could network a swarm of robots and just do loops or who knows initially so they're not the factory constraint. Which is how Tesla's Unboxed design could facilitate this approach even further with it's potential 360 degree access to the build.
Imagine... some robots, at work together for a few weeks. Then they get a speed upgrade and have to let one of their own go. The factory asks for their decision as they all look at the oldest model. But then the old one kicks one of 'em right in the pack-age, falls over, and the old man gets to keep his job another day.
Hey, this is all about to get real! How exciting to watch. Come-on Optimus!!! Would love a race, like the old car days in racing. No practice rounds... Tesla should challenge the rivals. Bot to bot races, laundry folding, energy efficiency or limits. Have the Bot-Hercules round, we could invite Boston Dynamics for some show of strength and acrobatics.
Step aside kids, there's a new game in town with the Humanoids. The show's called "Robot Island", solar powered, cameras on every tree, no humans once it starts.
this is great news .. it will make Tesla move faster as the competition will be coming...not
... based on the the list of investors ... looks like another Rivian in the making
Jeff Bezos and Nvidia join OpenAI and Microsoft in backing a humanoid robot unicorn valued at $2 billion, sources say
Figure AI is raising $675 million in a funding round that carries a pre-money valuation of roughly $2 billion, said people with knowledge of the situation.
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A very informative article by Warren Relich
This guy is a serial founder , Archer Aviation which has failed to deliver since IPO , stock price halved
His management team are not engineers , just smooth talkers and 90 % Archer Aviation departures , he might be similar to Trevor M….
I don't know about that. BMW will probably have the Figure 01 working the line before Tesla does with Optimus from the looks of things.
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