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Agree. This would be a feature I would really pay for.Wouldn't pay anything for it, but it's nice to have in case it becomes useful and starts riding my kids to school without me in the vehicle. But I doub that happening within the time I plan to keep the car (hopefully it's transferable to the next one).
EAP was removed before and only brought back because FSD was so far from complete. Now that Tesla sees FSDS a complete (out of Beta) system they see no need to offer EAP. Of course Tesla being Tesla they could bring it back at any time.FSD is $8K.
But what happened to EAP? EAP has been removed. So, it's either basic (free) or FSD?
If you previously purchased EAP for $6000 (like me) you can now do a $2000 one time purchase to get FSD. (Which makes complete sense, of course given the new $8K FSD price.) This is confirmed in my Tesla app.FSD is $8K.
But what happened to EAP? EAP has been removed. So, it's either basic (free) or FSD?
I neither have sympathies or nor envy for anyone purchasing FSD at any given price. You either purchase it because you feel its value at the time your purchased it was worth it....or you don't.Back in July of 2018 I bought my Model 3 with EAP ($5K) and added the vaporware FSD promise ($3K) for grins and chuckles. Nice to see that over the 6 years since of hugely varying prices, things are now back to what they were 6 years ago. Admittedly the software does a few more things better than it did 6 years ago, and several things far worse. But at least we now have consistent pricing. My sympathies to those who paid 5-digit prices for their vaporware.
I mostly agree. However, $8K is not "just" for FSD on city streets. It also provides EAP on the highway (which is very, very good). And having the currently available EAP for highway driving (if you do lots of that) can be worth it. It was worth it to me at $6K.I feel for folks who bought FSD at $15K, $12K, etc... But even at $8K it is way overpriced. The max I would pay is $3K assuming it actually works. I expect to keep this car no more than 3 years. Otherwise, I'd go the Subscription route and then maybe just when I do road trips. IF the FSD was fully transferable to any Tesla the owner buys, that might be worth it over the long run and would help Tesla retain customers. Wasted opportunity the way Tesla connects the software to the car and not the owner.
All depends on how long you expect to own the car. For someone like me who generally purchases a car and holds on to it for 10 years, purchasing can economically make much more sense.Tesla needs to make it transferable and that will get more people to buy and then lock them into future Tesla’s. Seems like a no brainer move. Otherwise, why buy it when you can subscribe.
Actually I don't see EAP on the Tesla website or in the Tesla App anymore. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place? Or maybe they bring it back after a price adjustment.I mostly agree. However, $8K is not "just" for FSD on city streets. It also provides EAP on the highway (which is very, very good). And having the currently available EAP for highway driving (if you do lots of that) can be worth it. It was worth it to me at $6K.
If Tesla does get Actually Smart Summon and Banish working as well, then I think $8K is reasonable...irrespective if you use supervised FSD on city streets. Otherwise I would say it makes more sense to go the subscription route for those times when you want to utilize EAP or supervised FSD.
Correct...they are not offering EAP at the moment. But plenty of owners (like me) have already purchased EAP for their vehicles. These owners can now "upgrade" to FSD for $2000.Actually I don't see EAP on the Tesla website or in the Tesla App anymore. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place? Or maybe they bring it back after a price adjustment.
We have to separate what "Supervised FSD" is worth, vs. what the goal is worth: level 3 autonomy and Level 4 autonomy....I don't see any market for $100K FSD.
I actually don't think it is to increase sales per se. I think it is to at least temporarily increase use / engagement for more data collection. I also think it is to allow them to recognize more revenue (on the balance sheet) for the FSD sales made to date. Any increase in sales is, imo, an indirect result of the desire for more data.Tesla is opening up the 30 day trial (I still don't have it) and lowering the price to increase sales.
That's how I look at it.... But on occasion I'd probably take the $99/mo subscription if I plan a road trip or to test out future versions.