Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
A lot of us absolutely love the yoke, but thanks for attempting to assign everybody your opinion.
And @TSLA Pilot is usually shy about his opinions...
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A lot of us absolutely love the yoke, but thanks for attempting to assign everybody your opinion.
Can’t imagine the car without the yoke. Love it. Completely cool with people having different takes on this.A lot of us absolutely love the yoke, but thanks for attempting to assign everybody your opinion.
Yes, of course it's "opinion" that is being shared by so very many professional auto reviewers as well. I guess some find it odd how their opinions, based on decades of evaluating cars by actually driving them, seem to match mine, and mine come with a Bachelor's in Human Factors Engineering:
Musk: No Chance at Steering Wheel Instead of Yoke in Tesla Model S
The Tesla Model S's new yoke steering wheel has stirred up controversy. But is it really a dealbreaker, or just drama?www.caranddriver.com
2022 Tesla Model S Plaid Steering Yoke Review: So, Is It Good or a Gimmick?
Is Tesla's unconventional new steering yoke the way forward or a step backward?www.motortrend.com
Yes, please feel free to keep your yokes/jokes and opinions, and share them here so as to provide the layman's uninformed/uneducated opinion. However, in the real world of experts, facts, and data, the Tesla yoke is a massive step backwards for auto safety with one exception: while it will likely lead to more accidents, the missing top half of the steering wheel may be a benefit in high energy collisions . . . .
I’m enjoying the massive step back. You’ll be okay. Go with the wheel.Yes, of course it's "opinion" that is being shared by so very many professional auto reviewers as well. I guess some find it odd how their opinions, based on decades of evaluating cars by actually driving them, seem to match mine, and mine come with a Bachelor's in Human Factors Engineering:
Musk: No Chance at Steering Wheel Instead of Yoke in Tesla Model S
The Tesla Model S's new yoke steering wheel has stirred up controversy. But is it really a dealbreaker, or just drama?www.caranddriver.com
2022 Tesla Model S Plaid Steering Yoke Review: So, Is It Good or a Gimmick?
Is Tesla's unconventional new steering yoke the way forward or a step backward?www.motortrend.com
Yes, please feel free to keep your yokes/jokes and opinions, and share them here so as to provide the layman's uninformed/uneducated opinion. However, in the real world of experts, facts, and data, the Tesla yoke is a massive step backwards for auto safety with one exception: while it will likely lead to more accidents, the missing top half of the steering wheel may be a benefit in high energy collisions . . . .
looks like everyone who likes the yoke is a pilot or wants to be a pilot . Going based off of your pictureA lot of us absolutely love the yoke, but thanks for attempting to assign everybody your opinion.
I'm a pilot and experimental airplane builder as a hobby ... but hate yokes in airplanes, stick+rudder all the way!looks like everyone who likes the yoke is a pilot or wants to be a pilot . Going based off of your picture
Spot on. Even my wife - who is, shall we say, change averse, will admit the yoke is comfortable for straight-and-narrow highway driving. It's the local maneuvers where its shortcomings come into full display. K-turns, U-turns, roundabouts, jughandles (welcome to NJ!), sharp corners, etc. are all suboptimal -- borderline dangerous. Had several maneuvers where I'm executing a quick turn, reach to grab the wheel and get nothing but air because there is no wheel where I expect it. I'll grant that I've got many decades of muscle memory ingrained but that is all the more reason why steering should be instinctive.On the highway, I didn't have an issue for the most part with the yoke. I could have lived with that aspect of it, at least until I need more than a turn lock to lock.
Spot on. Even my wife - who is, shall we say, change averse, will admit the yoke is comfortable for straight-and-narrow highway driving. It's the local maneuvers where its shortcomings come into full display. K-turns, U-turns, roundabouts, jughandles (welcome to NJ!), sharp corners, etc. are all suboptimal -- borderline dangerous. Had several maneuvers where I'm executing a quick turn, reach to grab the wheel and get nothing but air because there is no wheel where I expect it. I'll grant that I've got many decades of muscle memory ingrained but that is all the more reason why steering should be instinctive.
Variable ratio rack would help tremendously - without it, those > 90deg manuevers are all suboptimal compared to a wheel. If it weren't, the Model T would've had a T-bar for steering and not a wheel.
Those moves with the yoke are not universally dangerous or suboptimal. To some they are and to some they are not evidently. I have done all those maneuvers quite a few times in the 72k+ miles (18 states) I have on the yoke. No accidents, no issues, no near misses due to the yoke.
It is okay if the yoke is not for you - now you have a choice. But these universal, drama filled responses from anti-yokers are just old. This is not to you dmurphy but the others that will not be happy until the yoke is eliminated from this planet through their hyperbole and government intervention. The yoke works - get over it - it is not for everyone and you now have a choice.
Isn't there something else about the car you can latch on to complain about and tell us why we are so stupid for liking it? I will start it off - I think the cup holders are great and in the right place.
Exactly what the video in post #350 addresses FWIW.Spot on. Even my wife - who is, shall we say, change averse, will admit the yoke is comfortable for straight-and-narrow highway driving. It's the local maneuvers where its shortcomings come into full display. K-turns, U-turns, roundabouts, jughandles (welcome to NJ!), sharp corners, etc. are all suboptimal -- borderline dangerous. Had several maneuvers where I'm executing a quick turn, reach to grab the wheel and get nothing but air because there is no wheel where I expect it. I'll grant that I've got many decades of muscle memory ingrained but that is all the more reason why steering should be instinctive.
Variable ratio rack would help tremendously - without it, those > 90deg manuevers are all suboptimal compared to a wheel. If it weren't, the Model T would've had a T-bar for steering and not a wheel.
Exactly what the video in post #350 addresses FWIW.
The yoke isn’t necessarily a bad idea, but Teslas implementation is. They put a yoke on a steering system from a conventional round wheel car - that’s a mistake. It could be improved considerably, see video in post #350 above.Conclusion? "Bring back the round wheel and bring back the stalks."
The yoke isn’t necessarily a bad idea, but Teslas implementation is. They put a yoke on a steering system from a conventional round wheel car - that’s a mistake. It could be improved considerably, see video in post #350 above.
Note the delay in the wheels turning. It is pretty bad.I wouldn't trust electronic steering (especially from a brand whose wheels are falling off ), or does it have a failsafe in a similar way as when power-steering fails you can still steer?