TexasTeslaRacing
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Your 60ft times are a tenth to two tenths higher than normal. You should be in the low 1.6 range. We're you losing traction on any of these runs?
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Pack Performance and Launch Mode Limits
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Your 60ft times are a tenth to two tenths higher than normal. You should be in the low 1.6 range. We're you losing traction on any of these runs?
n2mb_racing
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stopcrazypp
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Seems like you are almost hitting 490 kW, so power doesn't seem to be the issue. The P85DLs and P90DL v1s only put out ~450kW.
Newer P90DL makes 662 hp at the battery!!!
n2mb_racing
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Agreed. I think you should have hit the same 1/4 mile time with better traction, a full charge and using launch mode, based on the data here:
Power limit with latest software update: Data
Walta
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Looks like @Old Man Mike is going to have to redo the power charts for all the P cars? Something that will need to be revisited after every firmware release. The firmware updates used to have a feeling of "wow - something new.. wonder what goodies Tesla has thrown my way?" Now - not so.
My SA is still of the mindset that my car should get max power without LM. I sent him my power tool logs showing the before and after "counterGate the sequel" power levels. Should hear something this week...
My SA is still of the mindset that my car should get max power without LM. I sent him my power tool logs showing the before and after "counterGate the sequel" power levels. Should hear something this week...
TexasTeslaRacing
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To give you a reference for 60ft and 1/8 mile times, my 2015 P85D (AUG 2015 build) with 28k miles maxes out around 408KW with MBP ready! and launch mode. I have body color roof, premium package, and 19'' wheels.Best 60ft is 1.635 and 1/8 mile 7.2921.
I assume my car has very good build quality because it currently has the fastest recorded 1/8 mile on dragtimes 2015 Tesla Model S P85D 1/4 Mile Drag Racing. The Fastest recorded 1/8 mile P90DL v2 on dragtimes was 6.886 2016 Tesla Model S P90DL v2 1/4 Mile Drag Racing. That time and your's is a HUGE difference. How long was it between when you did you 11.26 and 11.575 1/4 mile runs? How many more miles were on the tires? PSI different? Track conditions the same as when you did 11.26?
My previous max power was 495kw. Without launch mode. I think launch mode causes a little power reduction if tyres slip.
Tyres has extra 1000 miles on them. They are pretty good. Track conditions are similar.
n2mb_racing
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Great, can you post your data here, for comparison? I'm trying to gather as much as possible.
Power limit with latest software update: Data
It looks like the other run you posted had launch mode. You can see the kW ramping up without MPH changing.
Power limit with latest software update: Data
It looks like the other run you posted had launch mode. You can see the kW ramping up without MPH changing.
n2mb_racing
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Updates here: Power limit with latest software update: Data
It seems the P85DL may not be affected by this latest software limitation. It might only be the P90DL and P100DL.
It seems the P85DL may not be affected by this latest software limitation. It might only be the P90DL and P100DL.
This is odd given that @MarcG reports no power level reduction in his P85DL.
Power limit with latest software update: Data
They are playing very coy... enough of this crap already Tesla:
"Thank you for reaching out to me. We have inspected the logs received for you vehicle and noted your vehicles range is not deviating and your battery pack currently has no faults. Currently your vehicle is performing as designed. Is it possible that you are reading the information you provided us from the vehicle’s dash? If so, we believe you are reading your vehicles estimates energy consumption chart. This chart will change due to driving habits, using the AC or heat and ambient temperatures. Please keep in mind this chart will continue to change as your vehicle collects more information on your driving patterns and provides better estimates of range consumption."
No, my vehicle is not performing as designed. And no, I'm not an idiot who is mistaking energy consumption chart for the very real loss of power that I am now experiencing.
"Thank you for reaching out to me. We have inspected the logs received for you vehicle and noted your vehicles range is not deviating and your battery pack currently has no faults. Currently your vehicle is performing as designed. Is it possible that you are reading the information you provided us from the vehicle’s dash? If so, we believe you are reading your vehicles estimates energy consumption chart. This chart will change due to driving habits, using the AC or heat and ambient temperatures. Please keep in mind this chart will continue to change as your vehicle collects more information on your driving patterns and provides better estimates of range consumption."
No, my vehicle is not performing as designed. And no, I'm not an idiot who is mistaking energy consumption chart for the very real loss of power that I am now experiencing.
stopcrazypp
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@hostman was referring to when the counter limiters were still active. The counter limiters have now since been removed and there is now only the launch mode limiter which seems to be set at 1500A, so it does not affect P85DL and P90DL v1 users (since they maxed out at 1500A anyways). @MarcG's results pretty much confirms this.
jerjozwik
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Walta
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@jerjozwik Thanks. Though I am thinking the 4/21/2016 manual contains launch mode verbiage?
I would like the Sept 2015 ish version so I can refer directly to the owners manual of the car I purchased when dealing with Tesla. Haven't been able to get it yet. Need to contact Tesla again.
benjiejr
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SDRick
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When you say your P85DL is not affected, are you implying that your car achieves the advertised horsepower and acceleration specifications that were in place when you purchased?
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