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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    The Roadsters were going into "limp mode" with fully charged batteries. It was a heat issue. On a 100 degree day, my Cayman barely registers warm after 20 minutes of HARD driving. That is what a hundred extra years and a quadrillion more miles of development get you. Better performance under...
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    I never saw any mention of the Roadster featuring a "limp mode" after a single lap of a track on a cool day before I watched it myself at Thunderhill on 4/10/09. Tesla was there with a couple of cars. One stock. One with a tuned suspension. I was surprised. I thought someone would have mentioned...
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    I thought the net-net was that it turns out that the M5 outperforms the MSP with one possible exception- street drag racing. The "absurd and academic discussion" was started by Tesla fans asserting something very different. I was super curious about this because I have vicarious experience with...
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    Video is in this thread. M5 turning casual sub 1:48 laps of Laguna Seca...a relatively tight and technical track. - - - Updated - - - So the MSP and Roadster have the advantage on tracks where you come to a dead stop, and then drive slowly? Like golf cart paths and Autopia? :biggrin: The...
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    So far, the videos available show the opposite. We should get a Model S out on the track with ChrisN in his M5 so we can show how much better the Model S is.
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    Model S vs Roadster on the Track

    So this is a 1:50 in a Roadster in the hands of a racing instructor who helped build the car? Again, this is an odd result that doesn't seem to line up with media reports and the "conventional wisdom" about the performance of these cars. On my first day at Laguna in my Cayman R I was running...
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    The top speed I hit on the track that day was 109 mph. Laguna is a relatively tight track that should favor a Roadster for at least a single lap. I am pretty sure the Roadsters at Thunderhill made it through a complete lap before they were affected by heat. The 2.5 advertises that it performs...
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    This is interesting, because the Roadster is supposed to be quicker than the chase car in the video following the blue M5 (My Porsche Cayman). Yet, I am running at a pace intended to follow the M5 and get it on video, which , arguably, puts me at faster than the M5 on that track. The Porsche...
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    I am going out on a limb and speculating that they were pushing the internals of those cars harder than they will let a production car run. My brother and I happened to be at Ferrari event at Thunderhill where Tesla brought a pair of Roadsters. They consistently went into a "degraded performance...
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    Apparently not Laguna Seca where we ran some 1:48s and a 1:47 for fun to show that a novice driver in an M5 can beat the Pro time of 1:51 in an MSP.
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    A couple of novice drivers have run 1:47s in the M5. See video above. AFAIK there has not been a pro in an MSP that has posted anything under 1:51. The M5 can do this lap after lap after lap. I am not sure if the MSP is at the point in it's development where it can withstand the rigors of track...
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    Model S Performance vs BMW M5

    Here are a couple of those laps: I am following in my Cayman R to document. Full disclosure: We are brothers and own 2 Civic Hybrids and Volt between us. :-) The S is an amazing vehicle for the road, but just like the Roadster, its capabilities on the track are greatly exaggerated...
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    4th annual ReFuel: Sun 7/1/12 @ Laguna Seca

    I am not so sure about all of this talk about the S versus an M5. Here is footage last week of me pacing my brother in his M5 (I am in a Cayman R). He is ticking off 1:47 laps one after the other. We are both novice drivers.