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Part of me thinks (hopes?) that at the end of one of these upcoming quarters, Elon will do a '2 day special' on EAP/FSD upgrades to add a little revenue boost. Right now the upgrade from EAP to FSD is $9K. No way I'm down for that, but at $2-3K, I could be swayed.

I did just that, for my '20 M3P. This was late Dec, with the $7500 and 10K SC miles. Delta is $1500 vs. today (less value of 10K SC miles) and red/black M3P is not eligible for tax credit. I'm still happy with my decision. Got a fresh battery, better range (vs. the '20 M3P), faster MCU, heat...

You might see updates this coming week. And a M3P is going to feel considerably faster than your vette, while provide much more comfort and usability.

Maybe the extra $1K was for paint?

Yeah those skinny tires on the OEM 20s might be more fragile than you're used to, even little holes can cause big problems. I put on a set of 19s today. I would have preferred summer tires instead of the factory all-season. I might switch after I wear these out.

Howdy! I live in Dallas, and I'm on my 2nd Model 3 P, going on 3 years in total. Always had the 20" wheels and standard summer tires. They never gave me a problem when cold. Obviously I didn't go out in it when we had snowmageddon in '21. However, I just secured a set of 19" Tesla wheels...

I'm on my second M3P, but I drove a new Model S LR before I bought my second M3P. To me, the Model S LR felt just as fast as my M3P. The interior was a noticeable step up, as well as the sound system. But ultimately the Model S just felt like too big a car for me. Even though I think it's the...

Correct she sold to a third party, got a new Tesla later that day.

While generally true, I believe the orange rear turn signals of the Model 3 corresponded with the 2023 model year switchover. For the M3P, I believe the gunpowder gray wheels were only available for model year 2020. I'm sure there are other examples, but thought of these off the top of my head.

I understand being paranoid. But if you're handing over the key cards, you have paperwork with a legal agreement that they're purchasing they car. Keeping the car linked to your Tesla account only exposes you to unneeded risk. My friend recently did this, and within 2 days of handing over the...

Right when you hand over the key cards. Who cares when you pay off the loan, the bank doesn't know or care who has access to the car itself.

Only the Standard Range Y built in Austin has 4680s. And you can't configure-to-order those, you have to pick them out of existing inventory. Look for Model Y with 269mi range. That's it. Those are the only vehicles with 4680s.

Keep in mind, BMW will certainly sell/trade your M4 directly. Whereas Tesla has to sell it via auction/wholesaler. So they're never going to offer you the same value.

$77.7K + tax savings on trade-in should be almost the same as $84K from BMW? If it makes you feel better, I previously owned a '12 E92 M3, then a '16 F80 M3. I went to the Performance Model 3 in late '19, and just bought my second one. I'm not going back to BMW or ICE cars :p

Correct! Unfortunately I have small kids, so I'm too scared of the white interior. And my '16 BMW was white, so I needed to mix things up a bit.

$6,000 USD for EAP. $15K is for FSD beta (includes EAP).

Do you get a choice of price to pay when you buy a newly-released iPhone?

I have owned a M3P since Dec '19. Even though I'm in TX, it's been below 45F plenty of times. Car drives fine. Just don't do stupid stuff. Would I want them for a whole NY winter, no. But they don't turn into ice bricks at 45F.

Everyone that took delivery of a car with no USS had to electronically acknowledge that parking assist functionality would be limited.

Sure it has. Go buy a brand new BMW X3 today. Tomorrow, go get a quote from Carmax. Promise you, you'll be lucky to get a cash offer of 20% less than you paid 24 hours previously from a BMW dealer.

No. The base price I paid was $55,490 after the $7500. Today the same car/base price is $53,990. You might be getting the 'cash' discount of $7500 (no longer available) confused with the 'tax' discount of $7500. As mentioned, the car I got (red M3P) is not eligible for any Federal tax credit...

If you had ordered a red or black M3P at the end of '22 and gotten the M3P, price delta today would be $1500, and no Supercharger miles. So maybe $1K delta max. Not worth jumping off a bridge. Red/black M3P too high for any Federal tax credits, too.

While it's true that M3P white/gray/blue (not black or red) would fall under the $55K MSRP, the Fed website doesn't list the M3P as an eligible vehicle. Hopefully an oversight that will be soon corrected.

Carmax will be less. They told me 2 weeks ago that all 3/S/X go straight to wholesalers. Only Y stays for retail sales/lots. This was before the price cuts, so expect Carmax to continue to offer low prices.

On Teslas, you can adjust those sensitivities. The auto-braking can literally save you from a collision, it did for me.

I'm on Model 3 Performance #2, after many years of BMW M-series. Leave the 'nanny' stuff on, it will save your ass. You're not giving up any performance or handling by enabling the safety features. A lot of it is automatic, regardless. Welcome to the future!

The Service Mode password is: service

No cabin air filters? Had my '20 M3P for three years, and replacing those was the only maintenance I ever had. I don't like any musty smell :)

Like many of you, I deliberately park out of the way, even if my kids complain we have to walk far to get into the store/wherever. Totally true story, from about 4 years ago when I was driving a new BMW X3 M40i... I go to CVS with my daughter, and park at the very far end of the parking lot...

Yeah, when I first noticed it, I was definitely annoyed. Then when I read why it was happening (due to the 'leakage' into the sensor) it became even more of an annoyance.

I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. Although my Model 3 has the newer style, I haven't been able to discern any perceivable difference or improvement. My old M3P had the blinker-flash-at-night problem, but that was rectified years ago with the older style.

Checking in here, have yet to see any Model Y with the new camera housing. Post pics? New cameras on the fenders, with concentric rings around the lens:

It won't bother many (most?) people, but that Intel Atom processor means using the screen can be occasionally laggy. Might want to try-before-you-buy, as there's no way to make it go any faster, i.e. if it annoys you now you'll be annoyed with it forever.

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I test drove a refresh S at the Plano, TX/Legacy West center last month. It really wasn't that strange, seemed like something you'd get used to. I think the 'no gear shifter' and (lack of standard) horn would be a more awkward adjustment than the yoke shape or turn signals.

Oh wow! Great to know, thanks.

I have the Gen 2, and it reaches my car with just a couple of feet to spare. I hope it never dies, as the 18ft cord on the Gen 3 would cost me a lot to re-wire the charger's location relative to my car.

I'd take the newer car. Unless you get annoyed by the inevitable rock chips or potential damage that a roadtrip typically invites. Then your older one might make more sense.

Funny, my experience is the opposite. I had a 2020 M3P with the 20" wheels and PS4s. Last week I traded in for a 2023 M3P with Uberturbines and Pirelli tires. Much better ride on the new car.

Interesting! Did you have to do any modifications to the wheels? Do they have the cut-out for the hub lip on the M3P? Did you buy those 2nd hand, or directly from Tesla?

The 2020 M3 Performance wheel color is technically called Gunpowder. Here's my touch up thread (could never find the exact Gunpowder paint). https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/scratch-repair-suggestions-for-20-gray-performance-wheel.180543/

Seems like something that would be cheaply solved by some creative 3D printing.

@RoBoRaT No I didn't see anything plugged into the radar connector in my 11/22 build Model 3. @Rheckbert3 great write-up! Really appreciate the pictures, too. The only 'extra steps' I did for mine: I put a long zip-tie around the bracket to secure the module, just in case that friction clip on...

Had the same problem on my newly-delivered Model 3. I stuck a piece of black adhesive felt to the back/side of the passenger seat where the seatbelt was hitting. You can also use the fuzzy half of those adhesive velcro strips. Easy to find at a hardware store.

I was not planning on replacing/upgrading my 2020 Model 3P at all. But the $7500 + tax savings (so $8K) and 10K supercharging miles was substantial enough for me to buy a new car. We already knew the Model 3 Performance wasn't going to be eligible for the 2023+ tax credits, so it's not like...

Understood that there have been slight differences in lights. But my point was that they've now converged (finally), so splitting them to divergent parts/paths would make little sense.

I could buy into that. Sure, a yoke, stalk-delete and maybe a few more tweaks (that will all come to the Y at the same time or soon thereafter) make sense. But these speculations about a wild 'revamp' with 4680s, Plaid-version, air-suspension and other major customer-facing enhancements just...

I never said there wouldn't be any change coming. I said I don't expect any substantial update, especially ones as wild as I've seen speculated. And anything beyond cosmetic bumpers, I would expect to see carried over to the Y, as well.

The 3/Y interiors are 95%(I'm guessing) identical, so if you're going to change up the 3's interior then the Y would change too - else costs go up. I saw the spy photos, but the 3/Y share the same tail lights and headlights. So why would they change one and not the other? If they did, costs...

Maybe in 5 years. Tesla is already behind on the Roadster, Cybertruck and (maybe?) whatever the robotaxi is going to be. They need to get the Cybertruck ramped and pumping out volume in order to keep up free cash flow. That will take a few years. Everything you're saying would be applicable to...