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  1. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Strongly doubt they would build two body variants.
  2. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This "pop" may be exciting to day traders. Long term investors recall the stock has been to 250 something like 25 times over the past 2 years and was over 400 more than 2 years ago. I expect we will see excitement when it passes 450.
  3. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Car dealer sales activity thread. Mixed bag but many responses indicate slowing sales at dealerships.
  4. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The ball test wasn't about being bulletproof; it was to show damage resistance compared to typical auto windows. I would thing Tesla would want to do another demo after the sledgehammer incident breaking the last demo.
  5. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    More attempted bailouts for legacy auto?
  6. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The stock price is barely more than half of what it was 2 years ago. Maybe it's a bit premature to gloat to people shorting?
  7. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The referral incentive added 6 months of free supercharging but removed the $250 discount. I've been watching prices on the model y as a friend is likely to get one before the end of the year and they've been becoming more expensive in Q4.
  8. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You can vent your frustration with sarcasm here and then go out and help by informing people where you find the opportunity
  9. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Just under 210. Another week that wall street demonstrates they have complete control at putting tsla exactly where they want it.
  10. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I see your point and, as a fan of Tesla, I agree. However, the mission should be the most important factor. If Tesla is able to ramp the less expensive vehicle soon and get more vehicles out to people, at the expense of roadster and other products waiting or ramping slower, then that's the way...
  11. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla solar is installing on a house two doors down from me today. I planned on ordering last year... and then this year... what is holding me back is personal finances. If I knew I could get it activated before the end of 2023, thereby being eligible for the tax credits on my next return, I...
  12. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That's the last update I heard. So my current expectation is set to Dec 31st, 2024. I desire the performance but I think it would be great for Tesla to offer a low powered and less expensive version that is basically a competitor to the Miata. When people see them, they won't know which...
  13. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Elon is saying it differently then every other time I've heard it in the nerd world. Been in soft dev since 1997. Always heard grok rhyme with crock.
  14. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This highlights a thought I've had for over a year now. It seems clear to me that the market makers control TSLA and can close it wherever they like. They can issue virtual shares at will and have unlimited shorting ability. So what reason is there to think this will ever not be the case and...
  15. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    As much meaning as Burnt Hair? I could spray some in here, if that helps.
  16. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't recall Elon saying that. Please share a recording or a source. Thank you.
  17. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Battery limits. No point in making a small mass-market vehicle that could ramp to 5 million per year when there isn't enough battery production to supply that volume. My point isn't that people can't have differing experiences and views, it's that people keep derailing this thread with the...
  18. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Thanks. I have started watching and wondering if I should keep going. That comment about recession and then, in the first 7 minutes, he says that Tesla and Toyota are best positioned to survive the transition to electric. Doubting the value of this hour long interview
  19. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    "Now here we are" Where is that? Per the linked article that I reposted and then deleted, zero employees chose to strike. When interviewed, one employee said they saw no benefit to joining the strike or union. But now this thread has spent two days and multiple pages talking about a strike...
  20. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I also avoid hate and using the word "hate" but I strongly agree with Krugerrand here. As life can often be, Tesla and the team that has worked hard to make the transition happen are not only not receiving their due credit but are being spoken poorly of online and in the "news" every single...
  21. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Maybe a happy accident or a programmed Easter egg but it did amuse me back when Tesla's visualization would occasionally display an Audi (and I think BMW maybe, too) as a literal rubbish can. 🗑
  22. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Slight correction, tri-motor target announced at the reveal event was 69,900.
  23. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    A follow up to my earlier post about car dealerships: Link to the new thread:
  24. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Sir, please, this is an all-ages forum! The idea is drool-worthy. Very much hope the stock is in a better place so I can trade some for that beast.
  25. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Sweet! Now let's cram a pack that size, or close, into a new roadster and weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
  26. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    An informative thread regarding the car dealer business and how it is going recently. There were posts here yesterday claiming car sales are fine and companies besides Tesla are still selling typical levels. Doesn't sound like that from dealers replying to this thread.
  27. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Interest rates may further increase in the USA. Not decreasing anytime in the near future.
  28. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It seems to me, in the current environment, Tesla is not confident they have the demand to sell every car if they keep ramping as quickly as possible. (Buy a share tomorrow morning, @Krugerrand :) ). We can argue forever and get nowhere trying to guess all the factors impacting that situation...
  29. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Did you read my post? Second person to comment this as if I didn't write that very comment in post.
  30. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So what was the purpose of setting up a presentation at GigaTexas?
  31. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, Tesla or Elon stated earlier this year that they were not charging a few to other automakers for NACS or using the superchargers, and owners would pay the same rates. How do wages and disposable income in the 1990s compare to today? Inflation has been worse than official numbers and wages...
  32. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think Elon could very much benefit from an actual vacation if he could truly detach and trust his teams.
  33. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So, everyone excited for the results and call? Or is everyone down because this call may be another "economy is bad, can't control the rates, production is hard" and then 20 minutes about how FSD is going to be the best ever and it will be here someday. I'm hoping for some positivity and...
  34. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Quarterly calls tend to be audio only but Tesla is setting up a presentation at GigaTexas.
  35. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I doubt it is related but there was a post on X yesterday that indicates another cybertruck delay. Not sharing details here as we should know the truth of it in the call this afternoon.
  36. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I might have been a catalyst for idle fees being implemented at superchargers. Back in 2016, I built a bed in my model S and set out on a 2.5 month tour of the continental USA. At that time, superchargers outside of California were nearly always vacant except for me, and often true even in...
  37. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For amusement, I share this real post made by the SEC a few hours ago. The replies are entertaining. Screenshot Live link
  38. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This just showed in my Facebook feed. If that is an official Tesla account, why showcase the new Roadster? Of course, I'm likely probably just giving myself wishful thinking.
  39. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Exactly. I'm not in the, "Elon promised!" Camp. I understand schedules change and it's hard to forecast new production and supply chains. My complaint is that Tesla continues to have very poor communication. It was excusable 7 years ago but not today. I test drove a model s three weeks...
  40. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I had the same thought and then wondered if it's actually Tesla creating the ad or some interested 3rd party. Also, the front end looks like an AI mashup of two different Era Model S to me. So I could be incorrect about it being Tesla doing the advertising on Facebook.
  41. Drumheller

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I've been seeing advertising for Tesla online for a while now. Below is an example seen on Facebook a few minutes ago. I think too many people are stuck believing advertising means TV and radio. I haven't had cable TV since 2011. I haven't been a radio listener in my car since 2015. Tesla may...