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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    So, I am pretty sure that a record only shows up in Bumper/NMVTIS if the title is transferred. So, presumably it means the car auctioned and sold in NY. If it auctioned and sold, and then IAAI is auctioning it again, but with the same mileage, then one of three things probably occurred: The new...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    You are adding things that are not in the law. The law does not care if an owner declares his salvage that somebody else thinks is viable. All CA's law says in the context of these examples is a "Total loss salvage vehicle means... that the owner...considers it uneconomical to repair." That's...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    The quick answer - this is probably all perfectly legal and you are probably stuck with the car. Auctions have announcement and arbitration rules they operate under. If they follow their rules, then there is not much legal recourse. If they commit fraud and do not follow their rules, then you...
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    FSD compared to auto steer-- differences

    I'm pretty sure Auto Steer already does #3 - mine will shade away from trucks when passing alongside them on highways. I have not been in a scenario to observe #2. And I don't think I noticed anything like #1, but not sure.
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    How can I create or access HDMI input?

    Just FYI, the only navigation feature degradation without premium connectivity is lack of satellite view and lack of traffic visualization. The actual navigation function, including standard map view and traffic-based routing, works the same without premium connectivity.
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Yes, IAAI is a salvage auction, even though they may run a few non-salvage cars. IAAI literally calls itself a "salvage auction" in their Canadian disclosure. Most of the inventory they run is salvage, and most of the buyers are there to buy salvage cars for repair shops and scrap yards. Selling...
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    MY vs MS air conditioning?

    I live in a region with very high humidity and summer temperatures 32° C or higher. I have always set my car automatic HVAC temperatures around 22° C, depending on the car. I have my Tesla Model Y set to 21.5°. My old car's similar level of comfort was 22°. (I think I would die if my car setting...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    To the first question, nobody has to prove that anything costs more to fix than a car is worth. An owner simply has the freedom to report their car as salvage, and that is it. There is no special hurdle and justification defined in the law. The law is concerned about a salvaged car making it...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    IAAI's offer to take the car back is actually aligned with NAAA arbitration guidelines in a case where a car is missing major announcements when it runs. In a situation like that, they typically unwind the car back to the seller, update the announcements, and then re-run the car. Since you...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    This exchange reminds me of a funny conversation in our family's lore. When my daughter was in her freshman year as an Aerospace Engineer, one of her classmates was probably trying to hit on her. To impress her, he was trying to mansplain aerodynamic principles that their professor just...
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    Suggestions on how to handle this Trunk Damage?

    Your insurance would make that determination. My hunch is it will fall under collision based on my personal similar-ish experience. And the rate increase depends a whole lot on your insurance company sometimes one claim bites you, sometimes not.
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Yes I read that code. And, did you read that link you posted? You may not know, but there are four core types of automobile insurance: auto liability coverage, uninsured and underinsured motorist coverage, comprehensive coverage, and collision coverage. The only one legally required in CA (and...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    No. Any car owner, independent of an insurance company, can declare their car a salvage by sending a form and $15 to CA DMV. Another poster linked to CA vehicle code about this at least four times. CA code does not require any of the stuff you added, unless you are a lawyer and are aware of...
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    Help with math

    Those data did the literal opposite. The ID.4's EPA rating is terrible. If you like that, you should love the Porsche Taycan - Porsche publishes 200 miles EPA and gives you 300. It is not that they are giving you something for nothing. They were massively derating their EPA numbers for who knows...
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    Help with math

    Here are the data. These are Edmund's top 10 most accurate. I included the 3 ID.4s they tested along with the bottom 10 for context. Tesla kinda owns EPA accuracy. If Volkswagen could even remotely accurately post EPA range, they might sell a few more cars... Rank Vehicle EPA Range Edmunds...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Got it. We actually agree on this point and I had written the same in one of the posts you responded to. It seems like Tesla is getting away from blocking salvaged cars from SC access. And yeah, if Tesla decided to salvage the car, it seems highly unlikely they would restore warranty. I don't...
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    Help with math

    This is one of my fun soapbox topics... If you look at the data, Tesla is actually highly accurate in posting their EPA combined range (e.g. 330 miles for the MYLR). Edmunds does a road driving test that attempts to mimic the EPA test. Tesla posts 4 of the top 5 most accurate EPA #s. Everyone...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    That is tough... Short answer is buy used cars from franchise dealers, major national brands (Carmax, Carvana, Vroom, Sonic, Penske, etc.), or local used dealers with a very high local reputation. The long answer is that there are around 70K licensed dealers in the US. The major of those won't...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Tesla would not be the one to do this... Branding a title probably occurs at time of title transfer. In the case of an insurance claim, the insurer buys the car from the owner and handles transfer of the title from the owner to the insurance company. At that time, they could brand the title...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Ooof, if they ran it As-Is, you probably cannot make a case for arbitration. Did you do an NMVTIS lookup at a site like VINCheck® Lookup | National Insurance Crime Bureau. Did your salvage record get posted the day of your sale. If so, it is almost certain that IAAI did it and they did at at the...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Did you buy the car at IAAI directly or did you use a broker? When you met with them, whom did you talk with (arbitrations, front office, dealer services, GM)? Did they tell you if they reported the salvage at time of sale to NMVTIS and why? Can you get a copy of the car’s announcements and...
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    Acceleration Boost (AB) or 20" induction wheels for 2023 new Model Y LR

    No, rolling start and rollout are totally different. All 0-60 and quarter mile runs start from a dead stop. But, the rollout is the first foot of travel before the timing gate. That part of the run is deducted from the total 0-60 time. It’s about 0.3 seconds for cars that are Tesla quick.
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    I wrote my likely flow of events above in hope that the OP/buyer would see it and not give up his pursuit of Prime Sales to unwind the sale. Prime Sales almost certainly misrepresented the car. This comes from my many years of experience in the wholesale automotive industry. I have been to...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    That’s not the way auctions work. The seller determines the salvage status, and that is how the auction runs the car. IAAI is a salvage auction, so sellers would not bring their cars unless they are salvage. Tesla has precedent for restoring SC access to salvage cars. I’m not aware of any...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Did you click the link I posted? The OP said IAAI reported the car to NMVTIS as a salvage car the day the auction closed and the car sold. They would only do this at Tesla’s explicit direction. It takes weeks for title transfer to Prime Sales and then to the owner, so we don’t know yet if IAAI...
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    Acceleration Boost (AB) or 20" induction wheels for 2023 new Model Y LR

    Minor tweak - 0-60 times include rollout in the LR and LR+AB. They exclude rollout in the performance variants. So, LR+AB is with rollout, and MYP is without rollout.
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    This was not some secret action done in a secret database. Tesla intentionally shipped the car to a salvage auction instead of three other nearby auctions. The day the auction closed and the car sold, IAAI reported the car to NMVTIS as a salvage car. IAAI did all this at Tesla's direction when...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    That assumes that the vehicle was even handled through a traditional insurance company. It may not have been. Tesla can unilaterally declare the vehicle anything they want, with or without insurance involved. See this provision in their warranty, just above the bullet you cited: The car was...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Who is the "they" and when does the timer start? This may be semantics, but that link looks like it is written for an insurance company that declares a car totaled and then takes ownership of it. There are a couple sections that look like they might be directed to a non-insurance owner. In this...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    I do not think Tesla is misinterpreting NMVTIS information - most likely Tesla directed the car to be salvaged and reported to NMVTIS. As others have suggested multiple times, I agree that unwinding the deal with the dealer is your best path. Prime Sales was either dirty or inexperienced, but...
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Doh, I am sorry. This was a quirk of the forum, for some reason showing that post while I was typing another. If I could delete mine, I would. How embarrassing.
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    OP posted Carfax info long above. Probably not title washing. Probably either Tesla error or Tesla treated it as a total and sent it to IAAI. You can clearly see the ownership chain in Carfax: Tesla->Tesla Lease->Used Car Dealer.
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    Bought a model Y that I thought had clean title and found out it was salvage

    Odds are pretty high that most of Tesla's used inventory comes from lease turn-in cars. The other source would be trade-ins, but probably mostly lease cars. That is what the legacy automakers do... Their captive finance companies hold private auctions with dealers only for their lease turn-in...
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    Acceleration Boost (AB) or 20" induction wheels for 2023 new Model Y LR

    Yep, excluding rollout in 0-60 and quarter mile runs has been the industry norm for a while now. About the only one not doing that is Tesla on their non-performance variants, in which they include rollout to exaggerate the difference between the standard and performance versions.
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    Auto lane change only?

    Unfortunately, no. This is a big feature gap compared to modern cars now. Seems like most of everyone else includes auto lane change in their core ADAS product.
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    Least expensive charging option better than 110

    Good point. For some reason, I just had 15-30 on my brain when I wrote that. But, why wouldn't you recommend it, if you put a proper junction box at the current outlet and properly routed the cabling to the new location? I also like the idea of converting the existing 120V to 240V, assuming no...
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    Least expensive charging option better than 110

    Well, anything 240V is better than anything 110V. And anything you already have is better than anything you might install. The dryer outlet is probably your best bet. But, I think extension cords are a no-no for stead EV charging. One option... you could install a hardwire extension run from...
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    What was the Tesla's advertised range for a 2020 Model T Perf when new?

    No, C&D did not achieve 291 miles. The achieved 230 miles in their 75 MPH highway driving test of the MYP. They said that that the EPA range was 291 miles. Not sure why MYLR range keeps getting thrown around. The OP was asking about 2020 MYP stated EPA range.
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    What was the Tesla's advertised range for a 2020 Model T Perf when new?

    Correct, though my post did not explicitly state it was answering the OP's question about the MYP, that is what I was answering. (I thought it was apparent from the context, as that was the only question he posed in his post.) I posted the C&D link as documented confirmation that the EPA's...
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    What was the Tesla's advertised range for a 2020 Model T Perf when new?

    According to Car & Driver's review, in which they tested the 2020 Model Y LR & Performance, the stated EPA range at the time was 291 miles. https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-y
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    Acceleration Boost (AB) or 20" induction wheels for 2023 new Model Y LR

    To summarize... No argument that the incremental cost for the Performance is probably one of the best values for performance in any car you can buy. But there are people who think that the 21" wheels, staggered tires, lowered suspension, and harder suspension are negatives they would not want...
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    Test drive 2023 opinions…

    The wheel clicks side-to-side also. Here's a clip out of the manual on the topic.
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    Test drive 2023 opinions…

    I'll ditto above, but actually answer as many of the questions as I can... not a particularly warm day but found seats a bit sweaty? The seats are fine in 100° F southern US heat - not as good as ventilated leather seats, but not bad (I have the white interior) However I found graphics very...
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    Acceleration Boost (AB) or 20" induction wheels for 2023 new Model Y LR

    I would go with the Induction wheels, no-brainer. You can always add AB later, but it is much more difficult to upgrade from Gemini to Induction wheels. I got mine with Gemini, because that is what I thought I wanted at the time. But, I do not like the cosmetics nearly as much as the Induction...
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    Can headlights go "on" permanently?

    I know. But when they took it, I thought it was gone forever.
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    Can headlights go "on" permanently?

    BOOM! This is tremendous. Its the little things like this that could keep me in a Tesla for my next car.
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    EV6 vs MY boost?

    The point of my post is that people throw around the term "real world" without defining it and the unconscious assumption that everyone else has the same driving patterns. Is "real world" simulated EPA test, like Edmunds, or 75 MPH continuous driving, or 65 MPH continuous driving, or local...
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    Finally drove a Model Y…it was incredible!!

    Bingo. Most folks don't know that Tesla advertises MYLR and MYP 0-60 times differently to confuse people into thinking that the difference is bigger than reality. Industry convention is to publish 0-60 and quarter mile times without rollout. Tesla advertise MYP without rollout and MYLR with...
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    Finally drove a Model Y…it was incredible!!

    Can you cite them? I have tried a few times to find controlled, instrumented tests. Car and Driver tests the standard MYLR at 4.4 seconds. If the upgrade is truly worth 0.5 seconds, then it should be in the realm of 4 seconds.