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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Today's latest video - little, if any, change from the last one. [edit: looks like a really slow production day - not that much going through the Logistics Lot]
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    So, it the IP CAN rotate*: * - So, yeah, if they add in some motors and do some other work. No comment about the black strip above the glovebox to clarify whether it potentially is a screen or something.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    You do realize that it's been happening with the Model 3/Ys that DON'T have radar as well, right?
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    If nothing else, it's a redundant system to have radar - which is what you want in the case of a "blinding" event. I know there's caveats in LIDAR, but I think the people who are working on it are making it function better too - the technology is evolving and should continue to be looked at as a...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    It always seems to be about compromise. Not sure I like the sounds of the changes - eliminating radar is a mistake in my opinion since Tesla doesn't have everything in place to ensure that the cameras stay clean and clear (washers, wipers, heaters, effective hydrophobic coatings, etc) nor are...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    M THIS makes me think this is bound either to Britain, Australia, Japan or some other "drive on the left" country.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    ...but, does the new taillight actually have better lighting for reversing? Looks like it might be brighter.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I was just watching the video from Fully Charged and they mentioned that VW is working toward a simpler charging system so that you are not fiddling with account cards, etc. It is a step in the right direction. The question is what will Tesla do with all the cars that have the unique Tesla...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    The fob is simply quicker - press whatever buttons you need. With a phone, you have to: 1) unlock the phone, 2) go into app, 3) possibly navigate menu, 4) perform task. The fob is guaranteed to work (phone could possibly not work if Tesla's network is down).
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    Wiki Model X Order/Delivery Tracking - Google Sheet

    It's an iffy proposition. Right now, the prices of used vehicles is high - just don't know for how long. If you're considering it for a trade-in, Tesla (in Canada) doesn't offer any good amount, privately, you might get a better deal. Model Y - it's unclear whether it's good timing too, since we...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Thanks Stro! I thought that it was there, but I've not had my coffee yet. Interesting looking at it - they only include the 22s and not the 20s on the plate. Oh, and congrats! I'm glad you got yours. Still looking at August myself. At this point, since I'm now buying out my S, I'd prefer the...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Just trying to remember - is there any way to find out the manufacturing date? Is it on a plate somewhere on the vehicle?
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Have deliveries had ANY rhyme or reason thus far? Anything is possible.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    ...OR European deliveries are going to start happening soon... I figure I might as well stir things up too.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I do - they're called "Serious Attitudes".
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Yeah, I just edited my post. BIG OOOPPPSSS. Makes my suggestion to sit overnight...hmmm - good? It might just get them to move their butts, but something tells me you're likely to get a restraining order. Inspect it until satisfied. Tell them you've earned an hour of inspection for each month of...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    This is truly getting closer to being EV Russian roulette.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Today is your day - FINALLY! Wishing that it all goes well, that it's a pristine delivery that goes without a hitch and that you only return to this thread to commiserate with the rest of us long-timers still sitting in queue. Best of luck! [Edit: Uh...yeah. Just read it's not happening until...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I 100% agree with you about what they did right - everything you listed including infrared warmers into the doors. One thing I'm wondering about is whether they'll include the 3 way cover/cargo net that I had in an older BMW Touring? It was good because it would attach to the ceiling, either...
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    App Rate Plan - Ontario Hydro

    Currently, it looks like it only works on newer vehicles - maybe those with MCU2 or better? I don't have access to it for my Model S with MCU1, but do have it with the Model Y.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    You might as well sleep at the Service Center tonight and they can wake you up with a morning coffee and donut.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I'm glad that they're finally rectifying it, but sorry that you had to go through hoops to get it to happen. It certainly is fair warning to others to inspect, inspect, inspect no matter whether they tell you they've got other things to do. If they've got to wait and you find something flawed...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    No frunk, inaccessible front (ie. BMW services access only), don't like the interior personally. This:
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    This what makes me laugh: Dozens of new Tesla Model Ys spotted being prepped for deliveries at Gigafactory Texas Tesla takes more care of those Model Ys that are new and ready to go (and frankly, could possibly be stored inside) than the Model Ss and Xs that have been sitting around outside for...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Roughy the same here - every 6 months on a 535xi Touring. Main issues were: Ignition, fuel pump, telemetrics, main computer, INJECTORS (apparently they never tested ceramic coatings with mixed fuel - ethanol/gasoline blends. They finally told me to only go to Shell AFTER the 3rd round of...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I'll have to check on those seatbelts and see if they've changed. You know how much trouble they are to install and how much engineering is involved. I betcha that it's the culprit behind these delays. Everything else was a simple change. ;)
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    Wiki Model X Order/Delivery Tracking - Google Sheet

    My latest "EDD" is August - that makes it 19 months from the point of order. I've little faith even in this "EDD".
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Conversely, I've had a couple and both were terrible for quality, durability and fit and finish. Very nice interior, but some equally iffy issues with engineering (N54 engine for one). There's a reason why so many people only own BMWs for the duration of the warranty. As for the service, yes...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    How did Tesla survive the first decade? What's the ongoing issue with the heat pump from the Model Y? Capacitive has worked fine for the Model S for years now. Not perfect, but it works - and it's way quieter. At least Rivian offers a larger pack to accommodate.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    So.... What do you consider this refresh? It's essentially a first model year under the covers for all purposes.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    The nice part about Rivian is that you can change everything about it including the fricken vehicle and you WON'T LOSE YOUR PLACE IN LINE. Change even an innocuous thing on a Tesla and you're put to the back of the line.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    The question is, if they're not selling the ones sitting on the test track in the next short while, does that mean we'll still be looking at 2021 VINs come July or August?
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I did an order back at the beginning of January figuring that Tesla would probably continue to delay and delay and delay. Ordered an R1T. Never was a pickup type of guy, but it's compelling since I want to get out into nature and carrying gear is really suited to it - plus the R1T is the only...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    "...that we would end up seeing VIN’s sooner later than that. take that as you will must [you have no choice]"
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    Wiki Model X Order/Delivery Tracking - Google Sheet

    Well, if by July you're seeing a 2021 VIN, I'd say just straight up reject it. Tell them you might have ordered it last year, but it's up to them to actually deliver a vehicle in the year in which the order is being fulfilled.
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    Wiki Model X Order/Delivery Tracking - Google Sheet

    Zero. I'm close to amongst the first orders of the refresh in Canada by my understanding of it, at least the ones that didn't have to be converted from the older model.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I could keep it together right up until that last, form-letter sentence. Actually, the whole thing screams insufferably. Thank you Tesla, for scr**ing the pooch.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Tesla will not do that - there's too much demand, and too many orders would be involved. They'll only do it at the new price, and probably stick you at the back of the line.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    I'm waiting for Tesla to silently convert us all to the Model Y, do home deliveries and walk away without acknowledging the utter crap they're doing.
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    Canadian X Refresh Orders

    Just a stunning failure by Tesla at this point - combined with silence other than looking on our order pages. I cannot, in good conscience, recommend Tesla at this point.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    WOW! All I can say is to escalate it. Ask for the service manager, and if not satisfied escalate it higher. If there's another service center that's within distance, you might want to contact them as well.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Well...August. Just f'n wonderful. Anyone who wants to defend Tesla through this - please don't. This situation cannot be solely due to: parts backlog, "production is hard" - it's a FUBAR situation and I absolutely believe that either they've absolutely screwed this refresh up in engineering (by...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    Well, at this point call the service center. Let them know exactly what has happened, take as many pictures as possible - make sure there's timestamps. Also video it and include the mileage so they have as little as possible to argue over. Don't move the car until all of that is done. Regardless...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    It's a great idea - fair warning, just don't choose me. I'd be likely to try to convince the new owner to reject it and take it for myself at this point. 😉 Those who are experienced with deliveries are usually keen eyed enough to spot the issues they've encountered. I would consider it for...
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    True. It was better when they stored them at the Kato site, although I'd prefer it to be sitting in a conditioned warehouse being pampered by people who wash and wax it weekly while awaiting parts. Wishful thinking - kinda like actually getting the X.
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    Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room

    They will, but they probably won't announce it.