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  1. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Um - Swedish? Advisor. Isn’t he on a sympathy strike against Tesla? Oh, I see. He’s driving it in Germany so he doesn’t have to abide by Swedish sympathy strikes. 😉
  2. Krugerrand

    seattle crash

    It’s the world we live in. People aren’t interested in facts, and the media knows sensationalism and negativity get them the clicks.
  3. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My ‘backing a cause’ is ‘investing’ in YOUR descendants. I already ‘backed my other cause’ by not having descendants. You’re welcome on both fronts.
  4. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I know people disagree with me and/or think it’s funny that I’d suggest they don’t understand. Don’t care. There’s a reason I don’t lose my mind or fall for the bs like so many others. Ever. Why even if the numbers are less than ideal, I don’t panic. Elon is the key to it all. He’s the...
  5. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Nope. It had to happen this way. Why do you think he went to all the trouble to protect the company in the first place. It’s not about him being there 24/7; he can’t and he won’t be. You’re thinking like you. You need to think like Elon to understand. That’s most everyone’s problem...
  6. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Relax. 🧘 You don’t even own shares anymore. It’s all good. I understand that’s not going to satisfy your brain, but I’m telling you, it’s under control. Sit back and watch the master class Elon’s giving.
  7. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Thank you for the shout out and acknowledgment. It’s appreciated. Let’s try and remember next time not to lose our cool when everything Tesla is being systematically attacked. I hold out no hope, having seen this circus dozens of times, but maybe one day I’ll be pleasantly surprised. I have...
  8. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think part of the problem is people thinking it needs to be perfect. That it needs to never make a mistake. That’s ridiculous. It literally drives like people now, mistakes and all. The end goal simply only needs to be: better than people in general by ‘fill in a number’. I’m just hoping...
  9. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    So not to rub salt in that wound, but to rub salt in it; I sent in my insurance and payment two days ago. Any day now. Heck, probably any minute now. 😉
  10. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    He’s not wrong that they should. Will they all understand. Absolutely not. And that’s okay. They can carry on being oblivious. We have people here who don’t understand what’s happening with FSD. All they can do is point out what doesn’t work for them. My car recently drove me hundreds of...
  11. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Of course it doesn’t really matter. Just like all the hand wringing didn’t and doesn’t matter. But SOMEBODY is going to try to tell me, you, us, them, everyone else that it does matter. That’s the whole point of it all. It matters because so and so says it does and if you don’t listen and...
  12. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    What a difference a few minutes make. 🙄
  13. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It means: We have updated our future vehicle line-up to accelerate the launch of new models ahead of our previouslycommunicated start of production in the second half of 2025.These new vehicles, including more affordable models, will utilize aspects of the next generation platform as well...
  14. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    No. That’s not what the problem was at Nevada. You know that. You also know there were other states involved in the bidding. I’m well aware that incorporation is different than locating factories. Not the point I was making. And you k ow that as well. I will not play your game.
  15. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is your first ER call, huh? What can possibly not been known and revealed - because there’s never, ever been any surprises. Ever. 🤣😂 Like my prediction that CT is at least already at break even or maybe profitable!? That’d be a surprise.
  16. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    As a comparison and to sell the higher margined product. Customer: I’m interested in an LR AWD Model 3 Tesla: A good choice, however, perhaps you’d like to consider the new Performance Model 3? You get this, this, this, this and this for less than the LR AWD because of the IRA blah, blah...
  17. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I suspect Elon has spoken to ‘people familiar with the matter’. Perhaps those who actually are involved. Maybe this is a question to be asked - Why Texas, Elon? Why should we support an incorporation in Texas as opposed to Nevada? You have to know there’s reasons. We just don’t know them...
  18. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Factually, the cars have been appreciating assets in the past. Factually, none of us knows if it will happen again, but many can see a possible path to it.
  19. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Stop it. Let me know when you’ve read this thread from start to finish. Then I want to see you come back and say this with a straight face. You’ve been here a few days. You know nothing. You’re in the wrong thread. 🙄 Is there some sort of playbook out there that states Step 2: roll into a...
  20. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    @unk45 I believe knows some. He said he’d have preferred Nevada. I believe there’s some corporate tax differences, litigation differences and probably an endless list of differences. It’s beyond my ability to care one way or another at this point. It’ll pass or fail based on institutional...
  21. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    🙄 You didn’t say it to me. You didn’t apologize for getting it wrong TWICE. You didn’t apologize to the forum members for being a jerk about it or for spamming it or for not waiting 30s to make sure it was correct information or for even checking yourself it was correct information the first...
  22. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Mostly, huh? What about the part of your tongue not in your cheek but hanging to your knees? What’s that part doing?
  23. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Well, yes. And no. Depends. Money isn’t everything. It’s not even something a lot of the time. Many of the early investors did so because they believed in what needed to be done. Never mind. It no longer matters to me that people understand. This moment in time right now is simply deja...
  24. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It’s tiresome. All of it. But in particular the liars, the short-sighted, the bad actors, the disingenuous and intellectually dishonest - We’ve just engaged an ‘Alex’ who joined the forum this past Friday. It took me less than two posts to know he was at best dishonest. Under 30 posts for...
  25. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Forest for the trees. In oh so many ways.
  26. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And the prices did increase. Or did you miss that part. Hilarious the quotes from years ago, ignoring what did happen, and ignoring that nothing is static in life, circumstances change, sometimes overnight. Such disingenuousness. It’s nauseating.
  27. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I understand your POV. I think you’re wrong. On the marketing aspect and on this thought line. Not wrong about marketing , wrong about what needs to be done on the marketing front in the moment. I’ve seen what’s currently going on happen dozens of times. Elon is streamlining everything...
  28. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I’m about to ship you my 3 just so you’ll stop opining about this. 😉
  29. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Less employees also reduces the company’s health insurance costs, employer state/federal costs, food costs, travel costs, other miscellaneous costs you don’t think of but add up (like security badging costs) AND the big one - 2-ply toilet paper costs. 🤪
  30. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The risks have always been discussed here. The potential of the SP has always been discussed here. On the latter, however, this isn’t the place to discuss day to day, week to week, or even month to month SP gyrations. That discussion happens in a different thread.
  31. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    First, oh yeah. We saw some wicked SP moves in the early days. Brexit literally cut TSLA in half in a couple days. The SP then managed to recovery fully within a week or so. Then there was the fiasco where the SP went from $900 ish to $600 ish in a few hours. Thanks to the WS crooks. As...
  32. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Then you are a trader or perhaps short term holder. There are other threads on this forum that cater to that. Long term investors don’t sell and then buy back then sell then buy back. Long term investors understand the possible downfall of trying to time the market.
  33. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Oh, look. You posting the same bogus, incorrectly translated post again. Bravo, troll. Try harder.
  34. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We’re going to need a real source this time with a correct translation. Do you think you can do that this time?
  35. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    They’re not going to answer those questions. 🤦
  36. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Filling ‘the gap’ > what options writers want.
  37. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not the point. Not the context of the subject matter. And doesn’t change the fact this is a long term investor thread, reiterated by the thread creator and moderator. You are, again, being dishonest with your posts and reason for being here. You suggested 2.5 years was a long time to be...
  38. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I like the court system that hasn’t overturned my shareholder vote and deemed me too stupid to know the board’s relationship with the benefactor of my vote. So, yeah. I’ll vote to give Texas a chance.
  39. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I’ve been invested over 12 years to date. I have shares with cost basis between $2.32 and whatever my last set of demand shares are going to be within the next couple of weeks. 95% of my shares are under $10. I plan on holding for the foreseeable future, cashing in as I need money to defend...
  40. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I can understand how you would come to that conclusion. I don’t see any of it happening that way, other than absolutely they’ll drop the stock if he leaves, the same way they drop it when he stays and ‘it’s’ his fault. That’s what they do. I’m confident it’ll all work out. Very confident.
  41. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Disagree. I don’t know. You tell me because nothing said in that sentence was emotional.
  42. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I’ve never insisted the words ‘long term’ appear in the thread’s title. Whether you’re aware or not, whether the words appear or not, this has always been the long term investor’s thread. When it was two threads, and now as one combined thread; circa 2018. Additionally, I’m not the only to...
  43. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I do not know. I would make the decision at that time. Too many variables to make a predetermined decision. *We* have always been aware Elon would/could leave at some point. Initially, the thought process was after high volume/low cost vehicle. And there was a period of time where some...
  44. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    And yet you did. 🤣😂 You literally don’t know, do you?
  45. Krugerrand

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You don’t post like someone Yes. Nobody ever said he wasn’t infallible. 🤦‍ Won’t matter if he’s wrong or not. I’m not denigrating anyone. The short term thinking, white noise, dishonesty on display, and drama is entirely unnecessary and unhelpful in a long term investment forum. Nope...