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That topic is extensively discussed here: Model X IRS 100% Deduction “Hummer Loophole” - 2018 Edition

I know exactly where you are coming from. After being spoiled by BMW interior, Nothing seemed to cut it for me. Mercedes looked like 'that 70s show', Audi was trying too hard, Lexus didn't even come close... and the Model X interior is the same as the Chevy Volt's that I once owned. Same cheap...

I had the same dilemma last month and started a thread here. I took delivery of my Raven X on Sept 21. I ended up leasing after doing a lot of research on this, and trying hard to justify buying. I just updated the original thread with why. Here's the original thread: 2019 Model X Raven: Lease...

OP here, with an update. I took delivery of my Raven X on the 21st Sept. I finally decided to lease. Here's why: Basically, what I found out is that all things considered, it worked out pretty even at the end of 36 months. May be buying is slightly ahead. But not much, may be half of the sales...

Took delivery on Saturday 21st. Raven Model X, Midnight Silver, 7 seater with FSD. Ordered on Aug 9th at Sunnyvale, CA. Picked up at the Fremont delivery hub at the first scheduled date. Pickup was scheduled for 12:30PM. I arrived early with family around 11:30AM. We were greeted by happy...

What is + 2K miles...?!

Picked up the car yesterday as scheduled. Everything went exceptionally well. Will save the rave for another post! For now, I don't even know where to begin, completely blown away and lost for words to express the feeling!

I am taking delivery tomorrow after waiting 6 weeks since custom ordering. I escalated this incentive issue pretty forcefully through my sales rep. Got a call from the sr. manager who said that he spoke to the director and had the following message: "We never gave free upgrades or price cuts on...

According to Tesla (Bay Area), this was only offered over the last weekend, and only on inventory vehicles. "We never gave free upgrades or price incentives on custom ordered vehicles. When someone orders a new build, we first try to match that configuration with a new inventory vehicle. If we...

Got a text on Saturday 14th September, saying they expected to deliver my Model X within 1-2 weeks. Got another text this morning saying that the car was ready for delivery. Dropped by Tesla Showroom to change home delivery to Fremont delivery hub pickup, since the website had no option to do...

I chose the LR mostly for the efficiency and range as a refined family hauler. I have had a Yamaha R1 since 2007 for the 2.8 second 0-60. I could buy a brand new one now with the $16K+ I saved going with the LR... You are not going to take your minivan to the track. There's nowhere else you...

If so, how are body shops in Cali fixing it...?! Or other brands fixing their cars in Cali and not having these problems...? Where did you read this? calibashing.com? the-kremlin-gang.com? Sounds to me like another CalExit! :p Tesla has delivered cars with whole panels unpainted, or door edges...

Ordered on Aug 9. No VIN yet. Sales rep has stopped responding to emails. Sent one asking for update at end of 3rd week. Nothing. Waited one week and sent another at the end of 4th week. Nada. Dropped by the Tesla showroom on the way back from work yesterday, and caught him red handed. With a...

I have a friend from college who lives very close to Heathrow. His X is close to 2 years old and it has served him well. Recently some plastic part under the falcon wing door hinges broke, and was fixed by a mobile service mechanic within 48 hrs right on his driveway. Mine is on order and even...

When I ordered my Raven in August, the Tesla sales rep told me that they brought back the free supercharging for new cars by taking them off the used ones that had them... So I am not sure that that will transfer.

Congrats on your purchase! Downpayment and drive off are not the same. This could depend on your locality. Tesla is requiring me to pay only the upfront costs like fees, taxes, title, registration, and first month lease payment. This total 'drive off' comes to around $3,210 in my area, and I am...

Sure. They don't have to either. :) But this policy description sounds condescending to me. Why offer to accept returns if you are going to ascend the moral high horse and punish them by blacklisting them and restricting their future purchase options as if they did something wrong? Its like...

I doubt it. The bank is entitled to the payments until they get their money back. Its Tesla who is withholding the money after accepting the car back for return. I would think 7-10 business days is plenty for them to process a refund. Return doesn't look like a viable option. I would be extra...

How about the monthly payment from the time you return the car until they refund the money? Especially if you have taken a 3rd party loan? Does Tesla pay it while they sit on our money and we take public transport to work?

Thanks for sharing actual data about your lease. This is really helpful. It was Mar 2018, so I am assuming that the $75K residual includes $7.5K federal tax credit. So its more like $67.5K, since those who financed at that time would have gotten a check for $7.5K from Uncle Sam. The total...

I'm sorry the OP had to go through this, but I think its not all that bad, considering its only $5K and the ESA that he chose to not buy would have cost him $4K+ anyway. Its not like its a $20K repair. Who knows, may be his car won't break at all in the next 5 years. So he's almost even...

The depreciation on your car is the same, regardless of if you lease or finance the car. Assuming that you trade in your car after 36 months (apples to apples), I find it difficult to believe that leasing allows you to somehow pass the depreciation to Tesla while you drive your car. The only...

Hey unpollo2, Sorry if wasn't clear. The total drive off of $2,500 + $710.44 only covers first month payment and one time taxes and fees. So this would be $0 downpayment towards the lease. Thats probably why this is the lowest amount I can pay upfront. Attaching the complete breakdown of...

Agreed. Just wondering why Tesla (or the bank) would take that risk and put the residual where it is, when they actually have a better visibility into the Tesla product roadmap than any of us. Institutions can't remain in business making obviously bad bets like that one. They will be essentially...

Full Disclosure: I have been an avid fan and an evangelist for leasing in recent years. The last time I financed my car was in 2001. All the 6 cars I have purchased since then (3 of them electric) have been leased. I have returned two, and bought back the two I really liked (or had too little...

I ordered at my local Tesla dealer. The numbers are there on the Tesla account page, where you can play around with the numbers.

Hey guys. Trying to decide between leasing vs. financing for the Raven X I have on order. I am leaning towards financing for the following reason. 2019 Model X Raven, Long Range, Midnight Silver, black Interior, 7 seater, FSD. MSRP: 96,690 (inclusive of Destination and Documentation) LEASE...

The lowest you can go is $710.44 'due at signing' (on my configuration, MSRP $96,690 including destination and doc fee. Not sure about others). So thats $3,210.44 drive off.

So Elon was losing money on these ESA's and instead of trying to bring the quality up he decided to stop the ESA's? "I have read so much about the harmful effects of smoking... that I decided to quit reading!"

Ordered on Aug 9th. Long Range, Midnight Silver, Black Interior with 7 seats, FSD. No VIN# yet. Checked at the local dealership, and was told to wait another '2-3 weeks' because 'the factory was now making Asian and European models...' In the Bay Area.

If you live in the Bay Area, the best I found is 2.99% for 66 months. https://www.cefcu.com/rates/loan-rates.html This is not on the spreadsheet (yet).

EECU has great rates. But they only serve the following counties: Fresno, Kings, Tulare, Merced, Madera, Mariposa, Inyo, San Luis Obispo, San Benito and Monterey. I live in the SF Bay Area. :-(

Just dropped off my X5 at BMW of Concord. They did provide me a loaner, so courtesy is not dead. But on the other hand, I got a tiny i3 for my SUV. I know that it beats Uber credits stupidity, but your 3 carseats case may not work with most other brands either. I am someone who was worried to...

Just got this from my Tesla Sunnyvale sales person: "No dealership delivery has to be home or Fremont delivery hub" I opted for Fremont for the same reason.

Tesla doesn't discount either way. What I meant was that the advantage of leasing (lower monthly payments) gets amplified by the fact that you get to apply your entire discount upfront to a 36 month lease payment, as opposed to a 72 month loan payment. But in Tesla's case, the monthly lease...

Of course not! @Zaxxon is right. Thats why I said I was subsidizing the world. B-)

How I'd have loved to take delivery directly from the factory and save those $$$. Sounds like I am subsidizing the rest of you. Socialism! :-P Since supercharging comes for free, I guess it still makes sense for people to fly here and drive back for a great cross country experience. Much like...

Yes, thats what I am afraid of. I will work with the dealer to have it delivered there (2 miles from home) so that I can do a thorough delivery checklist and possible refuse pickup if there are issues. They did not ask me for a delivery preference yet, but not sure if they will find it more...

As someone who designs tech products in Silicon Valley, I would say that you did the right thing going for the Raven instead of spending $65K on a used, previous generation hardware. I agree that it would have costed you less, but with technology evolving as fast as it does at Tesla, it doesn't...

Thank you for sharing this. I am waiting for my X to be delivered. It is unbelievable how this passed QC. I will refuse delivery if mine comes with parts unpainted. That is how we will force them to take this seriously. I wish you that these imperfections get fixed asap and you get to enjoy your...