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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    Lawyers are trying to avoid them being GM Cruise. None of which has any relation to Tesla where the driver takes all liability.
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    Don't do it. I did and I still hate it. Have to hold the wheel down hard for up to 15 seconds to avoid red hands beep and muting your music. Although maybe cars with interior camera are doing something different. But it's intolerable on my car.
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    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    I guess there's literally no way to know except to check the market every morning?
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    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    Was caught again by surprise by the 6/26 options becoming available. Perhaps I'm reading this calendar wrong? Options Expiration Calendar When did these options actually come out? Last time I see a "Equity LEAPS® added" was last September.
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    You have to pay more attention when using driving automation to protect Tesla from liability, even though you still assume full liability. #logic. If the world wasn't upside down, they'd demand the attention features when autopilot is OFF.
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    Chicago area superchargers failing in cold

    If you had a Raven then you didn't notice the problem if you didn't know what to look for. I assure all the Ravens have a problem. Battery is significantly colder than it should be all the time due to lack of heat scavenging due to bad series/parallel valve configuration on most drives. Older...
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    Chicago area superchargers failing in cold

    It's plausible there was some sort of regression in cold weather. How often does Tesla regression test this stuff anyway? This should not have happened: FWIW I still see crappy thermal behavior in my Raven, 5 years on now I don't expect it to be fixed. The algorithm for heat scavenging is...
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    1. Do you have a Tesla without interior camera? 2. Do you have this update? 3. Can you read my several posts earlier in this thread describing the actual new behavior when engaging autopilot?
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    The problem is by design. Would be a better use of my time to harass a mcdonalds employee over the amount of mac sauce on my big mac.
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    ~4 seconds after engaging. You can try to avoid it, it's tiring and doesn't always work. Easier just to leave it off.
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    I've been staying off autopilot a lot lately. I don't like it muting my music. Also the new beeps don't obey Joe mode either.
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    Update on the redhands/beep/mute immediately after engaging - it is not possible to 100% avoid it even pulling on the wheel with maximum torque waiting for the timer to elapse, sometimes it still goes off anyway. I don't have a DMS camera. Garbage.
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    Quoting my friend today "I don't want to use autopilot because I might get a strike". Freakonomics of NHTSA impositions. Just have to wait for people to die during periods of decreased autopilot usage.
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    I regret it. Basically beeps with red hands and mutes your music ~4 seconds after engaging. To avoid it you have to tug on the wheel with constant force so that when the timer elapses it detects torque at that instant, there are no averages or second chances. I tried many combinations of things...
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    I single hand drive. But this whole strike event happened over 10's of seconds, most of it with me wondering what the car wants me to do. No time to think to try something else. Get red hands, tug on wheel, wait, repeat. I've never seen something like this on my S, but I've only have 44.x for a...
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    Experienced several hours driving MY on basic autopilot with interior camera on 44.30.1. I was playing with it for a while to see if I could get the DMS to do anything - I couldn't. The rate of nags seemed inconsistent at best and not related to where I was looking. A couple hours into the drive...
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    Tesla recalls 2 million vehicles to limit use of Autopilot

    Major push to 2023.44.30.x going out now. I'm avoiding the update until people can confirm how much it punishes the driver. Anyone?
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    How is your rear camera after MCU1 to MCU2 upgade (dark?)

    Tesla pushed an update to fix the camera, dunno maybe sometime last year? Don't remember exactly. Painful many years where it was unusable and Tesla Service denying the issue. I'm going to guess they haven't sorted out sending the same update to an MCU2 retrofit in an older car...
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    SpaceX investor's thread

    They don't need the short-and-distort.
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    Wiki Selling TSLA Options - Be the House

    Random question since my searches are failing - is there a calendar or standard date the furthest out LEAP's become available for trading? i.e. expecting June 2026 next.
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    You're making some unfounded assumption if HW3 had 100x as much compute as it does today that the car would suddenly drive itself. Extremely flawed view. BTW almost all the failures I experience are in static and low speed environments, not that this will change your view.
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    I'm talking about training because that's been the core problem. Nothing so far has shown HW3 inference does not have enough power, plausible but a different topic. Energy to train a model of a certain size is the right metric. THAT has been scaling very very well. But you were probably...
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    Statements like these make me root for Tesla to finish quickly even though I'm spending this thread calling out their obvious flaws. It's a talent limitation not a hardware limitation.
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    This is absolutely incorrect 3 times over. Comparison to general purpose compute cores is completely unfounded. You're just not paying attention. Custom ASIC's used for AI training is because it's doing an entirely different task. It's got nothing to do with VC's. It's all about how many...
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    That's all the vision/perception part and is essentially solved now, mostly thanks to an explosion in compute power and a tiny bit to improvement in algorithms. But computing proper paths and driving behaviors once the environment is known is just a normal hard engineering problem. Although I...
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    Oh and by the way, I think the code they used to get it to run a path using the size of the ego car without hitting curbs is also what makes the car randomly turn the wrong way and freak everyone out when it's trying to make a turn where it's not going to clip a curb, i.e. left turn on to a 2...
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    Vision stack has clearly been refined. But that has resulted in almost no perceptible benefit to an outsider given that path planning was garbage before and still garbage now. Clearly path planning has changed over that time, the biggest change I can recall was when they actually taught the...
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    Supercharger - West Lebanon NH

    do you understand that cars drive on roads?
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    Supercharger - West Lebanon NH

    Sounds like whataboutism. Which part of letting people vote for these locations solves the above? Oh yeah, none of it. Planning the approximate area and size of new stations is perfectly suited to an algorithm.
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    Same, 11.3.x misses offramps often. Lane changes towards exits are sometimes improved, sometimes not. I'm beginning to suspect no one on the Autopilot team is a native driver (i.e. grew up in the US, learned to drive on things like go-carts even before license age, etc). FSD's driving probably...
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    Supercharger - West Lebanon NH

    People who own cars drive where there are roads. This is not hard. 1. Make all roads reachable. 2. Scale depending on demand. They didn't do 1 yet.
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    Supercharger - West Lebanon NH

    Demonstrating the dangers of direct democracy in real time. Tesla could easily figure out optimal placement by analyzing reachability from map data. They also know already where existing Tesla owners live. The voting is an exercise in futility.
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    Our thoughts on FSD Beta now detecting Autopilot cheat devices | TMC Podcast Clip

    Do what I do now, don't pay attention to the road, look down at the display instead so you can not miss the next nag warning. PS, don't sue me, sue Tesla.
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    Our thoughts on FSD Beta now detecting Autopilot cheat devices | TMC Podcast Clip

    This is not even an FSD thing. Strikes during autopilot are being used against FSD. Although on a road trip today I was remarking at the number of tesla's we saw on the highway that were clearly NOT using autopilot, as they didn't center in lane at all. Funny the autopilot strike happened at the...
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    Our thoughts on FSD Beta now detecting Autopilot cheat devices | TMC Podcast Clip

    Finally got hit with this ~38 days after getting 10.69.3.1+. Apparently it didn't like me keeping me hand on the wheel like I always do, immediate detection and strike. The message was ~"take over immediately", but I see defeat device detected in notifications. Seems like my car without interior...
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    That said I think something is wrong over there where everything seems to be single threaded through Elon. Old problems just fester until it's Elon's problem. If you tweet or youtube you can make it Elon's problem, if you're lucky. Took something on the order of 4 years to get the backup camera...
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    I doubt there has been any NoA updates in a few years. I would not expect any until single stack FSD is released.
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    Tesla Supercharger network

    Same story as it's been since the beginning. One of the routes around here is tentatively getting completed in Q4 after 9 years of waiting, making the trip plausible, but not comfortable (if the power happens to be out as it does during the winter - SOL).
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    Is there a way to prop up the wipers in advance of snow

    Under-windshield wiper heaters work. Can't disagree with the rest.
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    Home Charging Efficiency

    Likely your 12V just needs to be replaced, the car refuses to sleep because it may not power on again on a bad 12V.
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    It is totally if driver monitoring is disabled. And the lawyers (and Elon) will keep that system on, again, for the 4th time in the last page.
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    NoA is an L3+ system on-ramp to off-ramp. You can argue whether or not it's good at that, and even what the definition of good is, but Tesla is not taking any liability that they don't have to. Why would a company that that got their beta testers pay THEM $10k on top of ~$90k for the hardware to...
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    They could, the system is effectively has this capability now. But Tesla does what is good for Tesla. No reason for them to transfer liability from the driver to themselves. So keep tugging on that wheel.
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    Navigate on Autopilot is Useless (2018.42.3)

    I keep hearing about this phantom braking thing, and I'm puzzled. AP1 behavior was great up until later releases where they turned up the paranoia on the radar and it started phantom braking all the time, and I sold that car before it ever stopped. Although I hear there haven't been any AP1...
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    First FSD Beta accident?

    Procedural just means you using a grey matter neural net to tune the algorithm. In either case, a difference between actual steering angle and commanded steering angle could be used to identify when the path planner is doing really badly. Right now all they ahve is "user disengaged".
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    First FSD Beta accident?

    I suggested this ~5 years ago on the first release of AP v1, and people looked at me like I was crazy. It makes a lot more sense to allow this for training FSD, where you can make the appropriate arc through a turn even though FSD is engaged. Oh, and it needs the help. I'm surprised how bad the...
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    First FSD Beta accident?

    disabling TACC on the highway when taking control of steering is clearly the wrong choice and would be very annoying. Tesla should just make it more obvious when the car is trying to control any axis.
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    First FSD Beta accident?

    Going to take a wild guess and say there is no log data because it didn't happen. Report seems like it is written by someone who has never even used regular autopilot before. Not to mention after weeks of hard work to fight to get the chance to test FSD, the first thought is to file a NHTSA...
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    Safety Score

    Well, Tesla is bringing the charade back to 50 states, eventually. But I guess we have until then to take a break about whining about a dumb algorithm finding tyrannical correlations (not causation) to insurance claims. I would have been out of the game last week but I spent 2 days "driving as...