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Nothing official from B.O. (not a real surprise) but first time I've seen an official launch target for New Glenn.. NASA says Sept. 29, 2024. From NASA planning September launch of Mars smallsat mission on first New Glenn

For a guy who was clearly unaware of the investment issues requiring Drew's options activity, and as such posted baseless insinuations regarding "what he knew" here on an investment forum, you might want tone down the casting aspersions on others...

So, given that 4680 is just a form-factor, and the real special sauce are the internals (tabless design, endcap changes, fractured silicon anode, etc...) along with the DBE manufacturing process, are any other manufacturers incorporating these? It would seem there may be some intellectual...

Right? I much prefer the sophisticated analysts like Toilet Boy Mark Spiegel or Gordon Johnson!

Wow... almost 18 months since an F9 had to expend a stage...

Unless... the aliens are travelling towards us... Or one the probes enters a wormhole... Or it happens 1000's of years from now and is sent back through space and time... Or...

But if it were the same motor, then in order to make more torque, it would at some point be drawing more power from the pack...

Whoops, dropped a term, thanks @mongo...

Ok, different motor makes sense. And certainly, the battery impacts power delivery, but the fact that it makes more torque despite HP=TQ/5252 implies there's a difference in the performance curve dependant on RPM which the battery isn't a factor in. In other words: if it were the same...

Less HP, yet more torque... Folks speculating it's the battery... that would be odd if so and it's the same motor, given that HP is derived from torque & RPM, and the battery shouldn't care about RPM (that's a motor/inverter thing)...

It's which you opt respond to (vs. not) that is telling.

Because some folks make themselves out to be such dedicated targets?

And square shaped... Seriously...that must be an old graphic, as it has the Voyagers within the bow shock still.... And man, at the rate they are travelling it would be another 2,500 years to reach the middle of the Oort cloud... (on edit: yup, from 2016: Interstellar: Crossing the Cosmic Void )

1) Approaching ≠ reached. (see my previous post to you on this). B) Operating includes operating expenses like overhead, and yet was positive. GM was also positive. Strike two for your "RIP margin" comment. III) Do you think things can't be discovered in several month's time... or platforms...

Yup. ‘We’re Going to Spend Staggering Amounts of Money in Capex’ -Elon Musk

I mean, they already have had the datacenter for years...

The other good thing is that FSD won't get get annoyed when cyclists pull the stunts in this video... drift back and forth across the line in to your lane, don't signal when doing so, make a left from the right lane, turn left in front of you when originally behind and you had next right of way...

Furthering the point, from the 2024 Q1 update: @DarkandStormy I noticed you often don't like to reply when it's pointed out that one of your points may not be valid. Doesn't feel like you are interested in honest discourse....

[JWST nods knowingly]

The thing is twenty three and a half light hours away... it's crazy to think a man-made object is that far away. I'm really hoping we'll be able to still talk to it in 3 years... that will be 50th anniversary and right about at the 1 light-day point.... Repeating myself in this thread... these...

And with the discussion we are having in other threads about the possible velocities with nuclear propulsion and the Oberth effect ... we only have another 129 yrs before we get a planetary alignment to do multiple gravity assists and REALLY get a couple probes cookin'!

OUSTANDING! Not completely out of the woods yet, as they aren't yet getting unscrambled scientific data, but now getting engineering data back is a huge step...

Oh... well, they do use a coolant loop.. cool.... thanks @JB47394

But don't they put the RTG's on the end of long booms to keep them away from the sensitive electronics? That would seem to eliminate any thermal heating ability unless they had a coolant loop, which seems unlikely. [some googling occurs...] Ah, I had read there were heaters, but turns out not...

Yeah they do! 😜

And if a team doesn't perform as hoped/expected it's definitely not in an organization's best interests to let them go, right? I mean hanging on to duds is just good management! So, I've largely avoided responding to your posts up until recently, but you've ramped up your negative rhetoric...

Not "have reached". As mentioned, the supplier reduction based on engineering simplification. So, again, since you have stated that we should say RIP to margin but they clearly they are still reducing COGS... it sounds like you really don't know at all, right?

Well looky there.. what's being used as evidence of a disaster in the making by The Usual Suspects is actually indication of Tesla reducing their COGS and improving the product. Imagine that....

And the news item you doubled down on your incorrect understanding of (before hand-waving your wrong stance away), where we havce an example of Tesla reducing it's COGS in manufacturing the 3? And who knows how many other engineering/production/manufacturing improvements we don't know abuout...

Once again, your take is that the only possible explanation is CEO incompetence. Not... you know, that another approach might make better sense in light of circumstances four years later. Oh that's right... successful leaders NEVER change their approach/tactics as time marches on and the...

Agreed for disengagements which is metric that's often used to judge/compare systems. But for the purposes of gathering valuable training data, I suspect the system can learn a lot even ehn FSD isn't engaged by the magnitude of the delta between the driver action, and the shadow-mode FSD...

Why is your profile not open?

Yeah, obviously short hops and relatively long charge durations... but honestly surprised that there's that much power left over when runnign all the other stuff: computers, heaters, sensors, etc... I was going to add "radio transmitters", but I wonder if that would necessarily be the case...

They are undoubtedly doing the former (on a massive scale), and I suspect they are more than happy to do the latter when they can manage it.

"Shamelessly Stolen Here" is more like it.

1000 lb Quad copter... cool. Interesting on that description: Mass: 420 kg Nominal Power: 70 W Hmm... 70W nominal to lift that thing... obviously it's bursty, but that seems low, especially given all the other systems that would be running... But the Wiki articles says the dense atmosphere...

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise...

Man what a lot of Rube Goldberg engineering for mission that honestly feels "meh".

That is a cool animation. It also appears that the CH4 pumps from the top down to about the middle, where the CH4 is then routed to nozzle heat exchangers, and then returns at the bottom where it flows upwards... whereas the LOX flows straight down in to the engine...

Wow... that article claims: That's... uh.. signficant. It seems to say electrostatics are involved, but that's not a fundamental new force, and: So in space, what's that gonna push against?

We aren't in a position to know.... and as you point out, the idea it's been cancelled is only an allegation. Re-prioritization? Advancements/changes they want to incorporate? Resource management? I find following SpaceX illuminating in how Elon runs things. Humans have a hard time not throwing...

And over 5...

That also matches what we saw reported earlier about them coming out the door in batches.

I find it amusing when a company is nimble and it pivots that folks try to use that as evidence of a failure. (not that I'm convinced they aren't doing this still) You'd rather they charge along as circumstances change?

Looks like BO finally delivered engine #2:

Hehe... all good... I my response was tongue-in-cheek... Plus analogies are always imperfect. But is the crux of this the idea that if you are going faster, you are thus able to push on the object over a longer distance and therefore do more work?

Well crap. I tried.

The article also says: Which makes sense... When the job is largely done, then if there's nothing waiting on deck, folks have to go...

He generally doesn't say stuff like this if he doesn't see a physics-based path towards it. Timelines, and business aspirations he has a shakier record on, but engineering things he's more solid on. As a reference point, the Original Merlin 1A, produced 76K lbs thrust, the 1D Full Thrust...