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  1. shrineofchance

    Autonomous Car Progress

    Wait, what? Not only do most blind people have eyes, some sighted people do read brail...
  2. shrineofchance

    Autonomous Car Progress

    This is the epitome of:
  3. shrineofchance

    Snippiness 2.0

    The colour white, according to bladerskb:
  4. shrineofchance

    Snippiness 2.0

  5. shrineofchance

    Tesla has allegedly activated a selfie cam Driver Monitoring System

    This is good timing because visual DMS is something that many folks (including Lex Fridman and George Hotz) have postulated will be necessary for Tesla to make the transition from L2 urban driving to L3+.
  6. shrineofchance

    Snippiness 2.0

    Bladerskb has a cognitive malfunction where, if he's wrong, his brain will miscomprehend straightforward English to whatever extent required to make him right. And if you're not wrong, his brain will miscomprehend straightforward English to whatever extent required to make you wrong. The plain...
  7. shrineofchance

    Autonomous Car Progress

    Minimum number that is "tens of thousands of hours": 20,000 7 years * 365 days per year = 2,555 days 20,000 hours / 2,555 days = 7.8 hours per day The typical Western working adult's weekday schedule: 8 hours work (work 9am to 5pm, which is 8 hours, minus 1 hour for a lunch break, plus 1...
  8. shrineofchance

    Autonomous Car Progress

    Wow! Your own math discredits your absurd claim! 😅 Of course, real technologists watch "Amon" Shashua videos, which are totally different and much more technical. So, is this a prediction that the advertised functionality will actually materialize on schedule, or are you merely neutrally...
  9. shrineofchance

    Tesla has allegedly activated a selfie cam Driver Monitoring System

    Personally, I don't have much doubt this is real, but I like to err on the side of caution and wait until a story is confirmed by multiple sources or at least one reputable source.
  10. shrineofchance

    Tesla has allegedly activated a selfie cam Driver Monitoring System

    https://driveteslacanada.ca/model-y/tesla-officially-adds-driver-monitoring-system-through-cabin-camera-update/ archive: web.archive.org | archive.is
  11. shrineofchance

    Four Upcoming Self Driving Level 3 Cars by 2019

    You should tell that to the author of this thread.
  12. shrineofchance

    Autonomous Car Progress

    It's definitely tens of thousands of hours. He's definitely not making sugar up.
  13. shrineofchance

    Poll: your gut expectations for FSD v9

    Radical = Obvious, large, qualitative improvement Incremental = Only a bit better; about what you’d expect from a typical update Somewhere between = More than a typical update, but not enough improvement to make an obvious, striking contrast between v8.2 and v9
  14. shrineofchance

    Four Upcoming Self Driving Level 3 Cars by 2019

    That’s very helpful, thanks. So, 0/4 of these alleged L3 systems have materialized even 17 months after the end of 2019. 2/4 are fully abandoned. 1/4 possibly never existed in the first place.
  15. shrineofchance

    Four Upcoming Self Driving Level 3 Cars by 2019

    Do any of these 4 companies (Audi, Nissan, Volvo, or Honda) offer any Level 3 feature in any consumer vehicle to this date?
  16. shrineofchance

    Autonomous Car Progress

    Care to revisit your track record? https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/four-upcoming-self-driving-level-3-cars-by-2019.90930/
  17. shrineofchance

    Autonomous Car Progress

    Cross-posting from another thread because, to me, this is a fascinating and entertaining example of a company’s claims about the autonomy software they’ve developed looking pretty dubious. The employee reviews paint a picture of the biggest “sugar” show at a big “tech” company I’ve ever heard...
  18. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    Self-supervised learning (i.e. automatic labelling where the ground truth comes from the data itself):
  19. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    I don’t know for sure; all I know is Karpathy said active learning is one of several techniques they’ve used for data curation from the fleet.
  20. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    There are two distinct concepts to understand here: 1) Automatic labelling, e.g. when drivers automatically provide the training signal for semantic free space segmentation. (Another example of automatic labelling is self-supervised learning.) 2) Automatic data curation, when a sophisticated...
  21. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    This is a non-sequitur. Airplanes and medical devices aren't software-differentiated products. An AV is. An AV essentially is software. Tesla OS for the infotainment system is based on Linux. Similarly, I imagine companies like Tesla and Zoox are probably writing their own Linux-based RTOS...
  22. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    I did a little searching to see if I could find any info on what operating systems Zoox or other AV companies use. For Zoox, I found a job posting that hints that Zoox may use some form of "real-time Linux" (archive.org, archive.is). Maybe Automotive Grade Linux? If I were an AV company, I...
  23. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    Source? If you Google any of the following search terms: "zoox" "nvidia drive os" "zoox" "nvidia drive" "zoox" "nvidia os" "zoox" "nvidia operating system" "zoox" "nvidia" "operating system" You get no relevant results except for a blog post that doesn't say Zoox is using (or has ever...
  24. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    I think you're confusing the IPU-03 sold by Desay SV with other products sold by Desay SV or other companies. Or you're simply misunderstanding the functionality offered by the IPU-03. The IPU-03 is an autonomous driving domain controller. This is what the IPU-03 does in the Xpeng P7, according...
  25. shrineofchance

    Tesla.com - "Transitioning to Tesla Vision"

    By the time BlueCruise finally comes out, it will be hopelessly behind Autopilot/Tesla FSD.
  26. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    Tesla has very good reviews overall and we have pretty good visibility into its internal operations through investigative journalism and the like. A large majority of Glassdoor reviews from Xpeng's Silicon Valley subsidiary report a shocking degree of either fraudulence, incompetence, or both...
  27. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    What a total non-sequitur! 😝 Read the reviews!
  28. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    I'm reading Glassdoor reviews for "Xmotors.ai", Xpeng's R&D subsidiary in Mountain View. The reviews are dismal. "This is for the most part not a real company. Probably of 75% of the people here are not working on real projects. As others have mentioned, most of the people here spending time...
  29. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    There is little visibility into Xpeng's software. I'm unsure how much of Xpeng's ADAS software they actually own, control, or developed in-house. Xpeng's ADAS software is called Xpilot. The latest production release of Xpilot is Xpilot 3.0. Xpilot 3.0 uses a system called IPU-03 (third-gen...
  30. shrineofchance

    Facebook AI: "Self-supervised learning: The dark matter of intelligence"

    Loved this blog post by Yann LeCun and Ishan Misra at Facebook AI. If self-supervised learning could be made to work as well for computer vision as for natural language processing (NLP), it would be a giant leap forward for robotics, including autonomous vehicles. Notably, Tesla is using...
  31. shrineofchance

    Elon: FSD Beta v9 in three weeks (around June 15th)

    Lol. Unfortunate timing. I dunno if he means fleet-wide v9 (the button!) or Early Access v9. (Or, of course, if it will be on time...)
  32. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    Either in that video or a similar one from 2020 he says it's an old statistic. He gives the same 200,000 lane changes stat in his PyTorch talk from November 2019 (see 10:20): Clearly he's not updating this statistic.
  33. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    It's a good question. As Microterf said above, companies like GM/Cruise could do larger scale data collection but don't. It could be a number of things in the case of GM/Cruise: lack of investment (i.e. not wanting to hurt thin profit margins given conservative shareholders and a troubling...
  34. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    I see lots of references to Xpeng developing an "in-house" solution for autonomous driving, but I also found this on Nvidia's blog (April 2020): “Development of the P7 began in Xpeng’s data center, with NVIDIA’s AI infrastructure for training and testing self-driving deep neural networks. With...
  35. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    No, because both fleets use the same kind of techniques to curate data. I believe you're referencing a very old figure that was disclosed not too long after Navigate on Autopilot was released.
  36. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    Is Xpeng using production fleet learning with these vehicles or not? And if so, in what form exactly? What sources substantiate this? There are lots of vehicles equipped with cameras, radar, and ultrasonics that don't upload sensor data and don't do firmware updates.
  37. shrineofchance

    Is Tesla closer than we think?

    Oh, no, I think in some form it is almost guaranteed to happen, since Karpathy described this as part of the plan in his most recent public talk. There is a lot left unknown about how this will be implemented though, and how much of a difference it will make in pushing Tesla to a greater degree...
  38. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    Check out this blog post for an explanation of one technique for sourcing highly salient video clips out of an enormous quantity of video: https://medium.com/nvidia-ai/scalable-active-learning-for-autonomous-driving-a-practical-implementation-and-a-b-test-4d315ed04b5f The first 15 minutes of...
  39. shrineofchance

    Snippiness 2.0

    No, it's just this one creepy person who obsessively responds to everything I post (going on years) and frequently posts weirdly personal things about me on this forum. He honestly seems unwell and it creeps me out. Some people here have even said that during some past times I stopped using the...
  40. shrineofchance

    Snippiness 2.0

    You can't stop talking about me and it's creepy and stalker-y. You seem obsessed with me. It's bizarre and a little scary.
  41. shrineofchance

    Tesla.com - "Transitioning to Tesla Vision"

    Archive, for posterity: web.archive.org archive.is
  42. shrineofchance

    Snippiness 2.0

    Bladerskb, why are you so obsessed with me? It's kind of creepy. Who even are you? I'm also surprised! I really felt there was a high chance another company, especially GM after the Cruise acquisition, would see what Tesla is doing and emulate it. I guess not (so far).
  43. shrineofchance

    Google AI: Revisiting the Unreasonable Effectiveness of Data

    Common objections What about lidar? Before you bring up lidar, watch this video and then come back with an argument about why Levandowski is wrong: Secondly, if lidar really is the secret sauce… Neural networks trained via Tesla’s production fleet can be deployed in any cars. What’s to stop...