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You are right. Should be covered under goodwill since it is a well know issue. Looks like the main display still working ok but I don't know if it will last. For now I sealed the bottom display gap, where it is leaking, with clear 3M tape. I emailed Tesla Tech support few days ago but I have...

Having the same issue with my 2013 Model S with 46K miles. Contacted Tesla Tech Support. I hope Tesla fix it under warranty since I am an early Tesla car owner and it seems to be an issue with all early Model S. The clear liquid is very sticky and is very difficult to clean. It feels like...

Talked to Chris from Buena Park SC. He is the person I spoke with last time. He just reconfirmed the AC redirect to battery. He also forwarded the AC issue to the engineering department. Hopefully engineering can figure out better cycling schema to cool the battery and people.

In my case, car was parked for 9 hours outside. Went into the car, and started the AC before driving. It was blowing hot ambient air so I thought it will start cooling in couple of minutes but it did not. I started changing the setting after 5 minutes while driving on the local street and...

Here is the reply I received from Tesla Tech Support. You will be the judge. In my case, the AC was just blowing hot ambient air (I tried all different settings several times). I also did not receive any Alert. 110 deg SoCal too hot? I think it is typical temperature of many places in US...

Sent an email of this issue to the tech support. Should hear from them soon. I really hope it is not a design issue.

Please call Buena Park SC. I did not ask for his name but he knew this issue. He said if it is 110 deg outside, the battery temperature will even be higher. AC is redirected to prevent battery damage. I am seriously thinking of selling my S soon because nobody will buy Model S knowing that...

Talked to a technician at Buena Park SC today. He told me the AC was directed to the battery pack and the Model S was performing as expected. I kind of knew what he was going to say but I was really hoping that it was not designed to bypass with normal Southern California summer temperature...

Exactly the same thing happened to me today. I used the AC in the morning when it was still relatively cool. At 4:30PM the temperature was 110 Deg and the AC stop working; nothing but hot air. Drove an hour in 110 deg heat with windows down to get home. Check on the Car AC this evening when...

Thanks. Battery pack was not replaced only the contactors were. Curious, invoice did not say anything about the Air Conditioner but my AC is performing 1,000% better now. Before I needed to turn it up to 8 to get decent cold air, now it is cold at 1. Does the contactors affects the AC power...

Had my S for almost 3 years. I was not experiencing any problems but was asked to bring in my car for front seat belt inspection and contactor replacement. My invoice said "HIGH VOLTAGE BATTERY PACK - 1.0 AND 1 1.5 ENCLOSURE - POWER SWITCH RETROFIT KIT FOR 60KWH BATTERIES (1042674-S2-F) "...

No. I know how the power coating process is done. I also have been to several wheel power coating shops (They are usually very small so I should not call them Plants). I am not talkig about the entire wheel, just the wheel back pad. Do you know what a wheel back pad is and why it needs to be...

Uneven or over torque may lead to warped rotor. I think hard/panic braking and rotor over-heat can cause it too. My mechanic told me new rotors usually need a breaking period for the first few hundred miles. Basically you apply brake at various speed and avoid any hard braking. Back pad is...

I also received a reply from Brembo. In summary, over torque can cause rotor issue while under torque can cause the nut/bolt to come off. So I guess all the comments about lower torque causes warped rotors are just BS? "The use of a tightening torque smaller than the prescribed can lead to...

After few email exchanges with Mr. Brooks, TM decided to refund the repair cost as one time goodwill. Warped rotors will be send to Fremont for inspection. TM also clarified that the rotors were warped up to 0.9mm; not 9mm. Case closed for now.

Thanks. Uneven torquing did come up on my google search but were not professional reference/opinions. @yobigd20: Please provide your reference. I am trying to get professional reference/opinion on the relationship between wheel torque and warped rotor. I emailed Brembo and Stoptech but no...

Sounds like you are very confident about your statement so do you have any reference article or professional paper about lower torque causes warped rotors? When I google I only find over torquing (may) causes warped rotor. Thanks

Has your Model S suspension lost its new-car crispness? Let me restate my question. From the link provided on the first post, it seems the higher torque (129) is needed to prevent the wheel from coming off. Is that correct?

Can somebody please tell me why TM changed/increased the wheel torque spec to 129 ft Lb? 129 ft lb is very high for a sedan. Even GTR wheels are only at 100 ft lb. What was previous lower torque causing? Thanks

Mr. Brooks from Costa Mesa SC replied my email. He basically said the warranty was voided because the wheel torque did not match the service manual and he will not provide a written statement. I replied to him that I failed to see why a written statement can not be provided since it is just a...

I am only repeating the number that was given to me. Lisa is not very technical so until I get the rotors back I can not be sure. But I do not think all 4 pads needed replacing if the worse one is 0.9mm. Pads should all be almost brand new since I rarely use the brakes except for the last 5...

"It certainly could if some of the lugs were at 95 and others were at 130 though" I doubt that could happen. Once a torque is set on the torque wrench, they should all be pretty much within the setting tolerance range unless you change it again. I don't think an installer would keep changing...

I was shocked too so I made Liza, TM Costa Mesa Rep, said it twice on the phone. Brake pads had to be replaced too. I just can not image 95 compared to 129 ft lb torque caused that much rotor warpage. Warped rotors are being send to Fremont for analysis. I have asked in my email to M...

I need to get TM to commit a letter which I do not know if TM will but I will be sending an email to M. Brooks (Service Manager at Costa Mesa SC) for the letter. Being an old engineer with wheel experience who used to worked on his own car including replacing brake parts, I seriously can not...

Since the wheel/tire installed set the torque I guess I can go back and ask them to pay for the repair but they will probably laugh at me. Anyway, knowing at much as I know about wheels, my problem is that I cannot seriously say to the installer that torque was the cause because even I do not...

Thanks I mean my wheels at 95 caused the rotors to warp. First I was told maybe it was caused by backpad not being even, or the bolt hole not centered -- not true -- so finally torque number was used to void the warranty (I very much doubt it too).

Car is being serviced. All 4 rotors are warped bad. TM will NOT replace them under warranty. TM SC is sending the rotors to engineering team to troubleshoot. I was told my after-market wheels caused it and it is the first time TM encountered this problem. I volunteered to leave my wheels...

Already had that discussion with TM Costa Mesa service manager. My wheels have cut outs. I was aware of the rotor retaining screw (some car use clips). Screw can be removed/changed to install wheel if it does not have the cut out. Wheel installer should know that because the wheel would not...

Let's just say I know what warped rotor feels like since I had the same issue before with different car. You do have a good point about hub centering rings. In this case even without them it would have not make much of difference because I only needed a 1mm ring. Also hub centering ring helps...

There is always a chance for anything to go wrong but installing a centering ring is pretty simple. I suspected warped (some would say cracked) rotor and TM tech said the same thing. We both could be wrong but not very likely.

Like I said before hub centering ring was sized and installed. TM tech and I both agreed that warped disk(s) is most likely the issue which will be confirmed in couple of weeks. I did not say all 4 rotors are warped. I said up to 4 rotors. Repair coverage under warranty is the question. TM...

Manufacture spec is for manufacture OE wheels and may not apply to all after market wheels. I did not tell the installer what torque to use and 95 ft lb was used (they are a custom wheel installer since 1979). Wheels are still on my car so I do not see any problem here. TM OE wheels...

Got a phone voice message from Mark Brooks responding to my email to TM tech support. Will call him Tuesday and let you know what he says.

So we have confirmation that it happens with OE wheels also.

Do you have any particular person I should be contacting at TM?

No, I am not angry; just disappointed. I just wanted to hear other Model S owner opinion. I am sure a lot of us would like to put other wheels on our car without paying TM crazy mark up on them. Maybe by denying warranty service they will prevent other owners from purchasing other wheels.

Model S60 weigh about the same as Benz S class (I had one so I know) and minivans (I have one so I know). I think 95 ft lb is enough since my wheels are still on the car. In the old days, I used to tighthen the nuts until I could not go any further. Over torque will strip the wheel nuts and...

I checked with installer and they told me they manually torqued at 95 ft lb. I do not think it need to be torqued exactly at MS wheel spec. Like I said before, does anybody have any proof that lower wheel torque causes rotor warpage? I normally replace my non-electric car brakes at 50k miles...

I do not have the maintenance contract since I do not see many things needing service (I am the type of person that used to maintain their own car). Brake pads should last almost a lifetime since I rarely use the brakes.

My wheels use sport lugs so you are correct about the torque. I will verify with the wheel installer for the exact torque used (95 ft lb manual torque). TM test drove my car for about 10 minutes and told me the rotor was warped. TM also told me the warranty is automatically voided with after...

Would like to but I do not think it can be edited.

I don't like to argue if that is TM policy. I guess my first experience with TM is that they are just like any other car maker and we, early adapters, are just another car customer. LOL

Wheel was balanced using RoadForce machine and mounted by tire shop specialized in after market wheels. Centering ring was sized and used. Rotor retaining screw did not touch the back pad because of backpad cut out. Wheel was torqued using well know after market torque spec. Also problem did...

Like I said my after market wheel is more open than the OE so it should dissipate heat even better than OE 21" which is of more closed face design. Also I never sits with brake pressed since once the car stops it usually do not move by itself. The single time I had the hard braking, I had to...

If your aftermarket wheel is well balanced you should not have any problem. Also check the backpad and make sure it sit flush against the rotor (If there is a rotor retaining pin/bolt/clip, make sure it is not interfering with your wheel).

I have after market wheel when the car had 200 miles so it can't be the wheel. I am thinking more along the line of hot rotor/disk when I had to brake hard once around 5,000 miles. I am just surprised that the Brembo rotor warps so easily; specially for such a large diameter rotor. If current...

I was told that TM will not replace the rotor/disk under warranty since I have after market wheels so does it mean that the disk/rotor would have not warped if I had the OEM 21" wheels? I was also surprised that an almost brand new (since I barely use the brake due to regen) Brembo rotor/disk...

Rotor Thanks for correction

I was told maybe the wheels are under torqued (not uneven torqued) and may have caused the rotor to warp. Thousands of this same type of flow-formed wheel have been sold over the years with the same torque spec without any issue so what makes model S so different/special?

Had my Model S for about 9 month (6,000 miles). Took it in for check up because of wheel vibration during braking. I was told by the technician that I may have up to 4 warped brake rotor. Because I have after market wheels, brake warranty is automatically voided. I was told it maybe caused...