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give it a month, just pay anything they ask, it all sorts out after a month or two. They will bill you a few times then you will get a normal NEM bill which will be around $10 to $30 for your monthly charges and on that statement will be your yearly true up info, either how much was credited or...

@mjptech @mikesm With the Vue how close does the device need to be to the meter? Is there an easy way to export data in 1 hour increments to .csv format?

Can you share your script for google sheets?

Is there historical data available via API or is it only going forward?

Trying to get my hourly grid consumption and generation. My goal is get more accurate calculations for my TOU Rate Plan comparison. Downloading .csv from SCE gives me all the data but have not found a way to make it usable, so much data formulas to manipulate are quickly getting out of hand. I...

@GoingSolar can you share your macro that cleans up the SCE downloaded data? I have my CSV for past 12 months but not sure how to quickly make this usable.

@GoingSolar your data is the closest we have to an actual comparison of these TOU rates. There is a huge difference between PRIME and the 4-9 and 508 plans due to daily basic charge. Under Prime you are paying $12.40 daily basic charge vs only 0.90 on the other 2. All plans you pay the NBCs and...

Wow that is odd, I am in Rancho Cucamonga as well, up in the foothills.

Curious, are any of you with Tesla Solar + Battery using Advanced Time-based control in the app? If so are you using Balanced or Cost Savings? Seems Balanced would be the option to avoid pulling from the grid and paying NBCs?

A good way to test out the sheet is plug in your numbers and then check the calc it did for your plan, let me know which items it got close and which if any where way off.

Fair point. *UPDATED* after checking my tesla app I would think worst case difference is ~3 hours (per day), in most cases it is 1 hour difference between the rates, I am typically fully charged on my batteries by 2pm and I am sending to the grid heavily until around 6:30 from 12pm to 4pm and...

I understand the concern, but it is not that difficult as these plans only differ by few hours and if you have solar and battery, typically all your pull from grid would fall at night and all the plans my pull from grid fall into the last column of rate. Similar all my generation falls in the...

I am attempting to create a spreadsheet calculator for the 3 TOU plans available plus 1 spot for a grandfathered plan. It is not perfect but pretty close to what my bills are showing. Can you all give it a try and see if anything is really off...

The amount they pay changes monthly, for Sep 2020 it was 0.02577 per kWh https://www.sce.com/regulatory/tariff-books/rates-pricing-choices/net-surplus-compensation "...the energy usage charges from each month are added together, and any net energy usage credits are applied to the account. The...

Keep in mind this only applies to rate plans with a baseline credit. You only pay baseline credits for energy if you give to the grid more than you borrowed in a month. And they only pay you if you take from the grid more than you gave. Technically you can give a lot to the grid and still get...

Interesting, it seems the baseline credit goes both ways...your may bill you actually had to pay them $32.82 because you were a net generator for that month and any excess over your usage that you send back to them (in your case it was -454 kWh) you have to pay 0.07228 per kWh. I always assumed...

All of my kWh from grid were 10pm to 6am so I just moved those to off peak or super off peak for each calculation, my generation credit could be off though but my monthly bill is what I was mainly going for as even if I have a ton of credit at end of the year it will be very little money back...

I did some calculations with the following assumptions. That daily min charge is only added if NBCs are less, so for this example NBCs were higher so no added daily min charges. That NBCs, tax do not change between the plans. That baseline credit applies for all kWh pulled from grid. If my...

Please do, I am overly obsessed with this now, so will be happy to dissect :)

Curious, do you have any batteries? 1153 kWh is higher than my usage before solar. Also, I do not see the Daily min charge of 0.35 in your numbers? I assume the NBCs count towards this and so they did not charge you the $10.50 for this?

SUCCESS!!! I finally got through to a supervisor and she was able to cancel the rate plan change, so I am still on my grandfathered TOU-D-B rate :)

50 kw 😲 Maybe I am reading your screenshots wrong, it looks like you only used 144kWh from the grid for the whole month as that is what they used to calculate your NBCs. For me my NBCs was based off 481kWh grid usage or 4x your usage. You seem to have also earned credit during on peak, mid...

Bummer so the baseline credit is applied to energy credits and not the monthly charges. What killed you is the NBCs. I'm really regretting leaving my grandfathered plan, first person I spoke to said they cannot cancel the change, such BS. Waiting another hour on hold as when I asked to speak to...

Looks like you enrolled a smart thermostat Southern California Edison - SCE Smart Energy Program Wow, how are you using so little energy and how are you generating back to the grid on all 3 tiers?

TOU-D-A is about the best plan out there. Only 0.03 per day charge, you get the baseline credit and you have low super off peak and high on peak rates. Could you share your bill details? I am interested in your Daily Basic Charge, Minimum Daily Charge, NBCs Charges, Baseline Credit and whether...

Some useful definitions Baseline allocation is an amount of electricity provided for each residential customer at a lower rate than is charged for electricity above that level. The baseline amount is determined by the CPUC based on the number of days in the billing period, the season, the...

That would be very helpful, thank you! I am especially interested in your Daily Basic Charge, Minimum Daily Charge, NBCs Charges, Baseline Credit and whether or not any of them come out of your energy credits or if they are billed to you monthly.

Great points, my line of thinking is really more about the guaranteed daily charges. Had I stayed on my grandfathered plan I am guaranteed to pay SCE 0.711 per day *365 = $259.52 and with no baseline credits. Over my 10 year break even plan this is $2600 to SCE. I build my system larger than my...

I too believe you, just want to figure this out. We have enough of us here on different rates to really nail this down for others. Does your bill show TOU-D-PRIME for your rate or TOU-D-A? Maybe you are grandfathered into a different PRIME that no longer exists? This is what I show as...

Hoping I did not just make a huge mistake. So I was grandfathered in on SCE TOU-D-B-SDP, which has 0.13 from 10pm to 8am and 0.20 from 8am to 2pm and then .53 from 2pm to 8pm. It was a great plan, saved a ton on charging my electric vehicle. But this grandfathered plan has a really high min...

I am confused, I show the TOU-D-Prime rate has a minimum daily 0.40 per day and no baseline credits. So not even counting the required CTC, NDC, PPPC and DWR charges (which these alone avg around $10) how are you paying only $7 or $5 if the min daily alone would be $12?

Thanks for the info, I am looking to set this up on my iMac. I have and use brew so pulled down a few of the requirements (influxdb, telegraf, grafana) but this is all new to me. When I run influxd I get "500 Internal Server Error" when trying to load http://localhost:8086 I need a more step by...

Can you share your dashboard setup? Would like to have this too :)

Thanks, yeah I too am looking for cheap models that work even when grid is down and PWs are at max.

Thank you! Curious where to find part 2 of this mega thread?

How cow this thread is long! Here to report CyberPower ST425 does not work with our situation. I have 2 Powerwalls and 12.5 PV system. I am not supposed to be on yet so in my first few days testing, the solar was charging the 2 PWs to 100% before noon, to prevent excess going to the grid and SCE...

Did you find a solution? I too am trying to shutdown this wifi.