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    Passenger lumbar support missing from new MY

    Well we could take the same position of many here who are dismissive of customers venting about these things "don't buy a Tesla". Well how about "don't read the thread"? These forums serve a purpose as does the venting. It makes it apparent how many people are unhappy about these issues. If...
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    Passenger lumbar support missing from new MY

    I don't share your blind allegiance either. Thankfully.
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    Can Tesla add Radar Back at a Later Date?

    I'm involved in product development (enterprise security software not vehicles) and I very often see the "the data shows x" arguments for feature design that end up being bullshit because the wrong questions were asked of the data. Data is only useful if you use it properly. I see here a...
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    Can Tesla add Radar Back at a Later Date?

    Basis? Overpromising capabilities and thus leading to injury or death? Also this has nothing to do with FSD or haven't you been listening? This is about predictive braking and other safety features, not FSD. The ability of the system to protect the driver and others is a claim made by...
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    Can Tesla add Radar Back at a Later Date?

    I do so hope you are being sarcastic.
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    Can Tesla add Radar Back at a Later Date?

    What will cause Tesla to retrofit this is if there is a safety issue... where their "promise" of a safe vehicle WITHOUT radar proves to be wrong... and the lawsuits happen. I simply do not believe that Pure Vision will prove to be sufficient for dynamic collision avoidance, predictive...
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    What are chances of Tesla honoring a previous price when SA made a mistake?

    I would disagree. The SA is a representative of the company and he made an official request to have the order changed. The SA didn't follow up resulting in a higher price. I think he would have legal grounds for the reduced price if he was to push it. Especially if he has history where the...
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    Passenger lumbar support missing from new MY

    Removing features and lying to customers about "why" is not an engineering issue it's a "f the customer" issue since instead of delivering the vehicle the customer bought they are delivering a lesser vehicle simply to make delivery. If you think that is an engineering issue, or making the car...
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    Passenger lumbar support missing from new MY

    Lol. So? That "disclaimer" does mean you are not legally obligated to deliver what you advertized. You might want to check the law sometime. If you promise something then fail to deliver that has nothing to do with "reserving the right to...". You have to notify customers of changes...
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    How buying a radar-equipped inventory is meaningful if OTA updates will disable it?

    Because when it's demonstrated that cameras are not sufficient, and fail in adverse weather where radar would not, we'll see this for the scam it was. There's a reason Consumer Reports dropped Tesla's Top Pick rating.
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    Passenger lumbar support missing from new MY

    I was just thinking about this, the Musk tweets about "logs showed little usage". Maybe they should remove side mirror adjustment controls. Or windshield washers. Or hell back seats. Maybe overhead indoor lights. Emergency lights could go too. Airbags as well. After all they are all...
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    Passenger lumbar support missing from new MY

    Spoken like a true fanatic fanboy. Removing features and not informing customers is technically illegal. You bought a product with certain features. If they remove those features they are obligated to deliver them. If they can't, and they don't inform you (like the lumbar support) they would...
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    Passenger lumbar support missing from new MY

    Why do people act like this is Tesla reducing costs? This is Tesla fugging over customers because they have a parts shortage. They pulled a safety feature (radar) and now an important comfort feature (passenger lumbar) and aren't telling a soul about it. Musk and Tesla have zero integrity...