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  1. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    There are so many parts of this it would take hours to explain. Suffice it to say, I worked for BMW and the vehicles and associated parts they produce today are cheap to manufacture and sold for extremely high profits. BMW sells many cars yes, but also many cars are sold to dealerships for use...
  2. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    First, I didn't say I was getting my brake jobs done, I own and operate a BMW / MINI exclusive repair business, I know exactly what BMWs cost to maintain and they are 3-5X more expensive than Teslas and that's at our better than Dealership prices. Second, I am talking about 2014 and up vehicles...
  3. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Similarly priced vehicles: 1. Engines can be inspected, however the rate of oil consumption requires time. engine bearing and piston ring wear would require removal and teardown of the engine and thousands of dollars in labor and parts. 2. Battery health is not difficult to determine. My 15 year...
  4. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    The point is, all cars have faults. The things you list like fit & finish were there before you decided to purchase and you did anyway. So you I don't feel that carries much if any weight. The noise, well if it's been there the whole time, again it could have been fixed or you could have...
  5. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Sounds like a lot of my BMW/MINI clients.
  6. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    I think you underestimate my understanding LOL. Mine is a refresh 9/16 and look like new. Sounds like your headlights have been an issue but obviously this is not occurring to every vehicle. I could type until my fingers bleed listing the premature failures of BMWs built after 2010.
  7. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    No, just not sure why some peeps would intentionally hang out here obviously for the purpose of spreading negativity. If you have given up on Tesla as obviously some have, why not focus your attention on the "new car"? It seems to me they are not actually passionate about products and thus why...
  8. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    As a mechanic and BMW/MINI repair shop owner, my perspective is Tesla is unlike many manufacturers. Once the vehicle is out of warranty the manufacturers move on. 2013-15 S vehicles were the iPhone 1 of automobiles, early adopters bought them and many sold or traded them in on the newest iPhone...
  9. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Sounds like you should be on the Audi Owners Club Forums. It also sounds like you are outside of the US. I would guess any vehicle support from a newer US manufacturer outside the US would be a challenge and maybe something you should have considered before purchase. My S has been nearly...
  10. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    So it was the "evaporating demand" comment that did it? Sorry. I was simply being satirical and using the "" from the prior post. I joined the Club to talk Tesla experiences and share some of my 30 + years of mechanical knowledge. Forums tend to be a hyperbole and filled with some very outspoken...
  11. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Not defending Tesla, I already know the brand is going to take over the entire auto industry. I am simply expressing my opinions about some things and facts about others. BMW, will shrink by over 50%, Dealerships and many manufacturers will fail and sooner than most realize.
  12. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Tesla sales were up over 50% while "the entire industry to decline 22%". This is fundamental business, if your sales are up while everyone else's in your industry are down you have a long term winner.
  13. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    M5? Great example, Thanks. $120k vehicle that burns oil at a rate(1 qt every 500 miles) that's acceptable to BMW but not to any smart person. They blow rod bearings rendering the engine destroyed and $35k to replace it. This car is completely stupid. Super expensive brakes (2500 per axle)that...
  14. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Yes, I did just join. I have had my S for a while now and felt I should join a Tesla club after I canceled my BMW car club of America membership after 25 years. So does that make me new? I have been in the auto business for over 30 years, I will go toe to toe anytime;)
  15. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Wow, That's some good cherry picking. Toyota's 2020 sales were down over 10% but VWs were down even more so Toyota wins! Come on man...:rolleyes:
  16. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Why are you here on TMC?
  17. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    The only part of that car I like is the battery range; 42 miles. 😂 The only thing evaporating is demand for Toyota vehicles.
  18. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Headlight lens discoloration happens on nearly all vehicles today. Especially in warm sunny climates. We replace headlights, lenses or restore lenses every week. BMWs and MINIs parked outside will look bad in 3-5 years, can't speak for the other's timelines but expect similar.
  19. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    That's why there are many manufacturers... for now.
  20. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Imagine buying a car that never got an oil change, used low quality fuel, driven on the track and aftermarket brakes installed. I could go on for hours. Point is, used cars can suck regardless of who made them. At least Tesla has a better than nearly all, 8 year/100-150k mile battery &...
  21. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    I don't know. Mine are 5 years old and with the exception of a small scratch I made they look new. There's a lot of negativity about Tesla on this Tesla Club site. Appears some trolls with too much time on their hands are spreading FUD.
  22. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Interesting I am having this convo on TMC. "complex parts" mostly their engines and transmissions, but that's a bad thing. I replace those parts every day. Nothing complex about a plastic engine oil pan that uses a plastic drain plug. They are making the worst cars in their long history...
  23. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Prius Prime, The Worlds Ugliest Car. Panned by nearly every mag, reviewer, and me. I would not be caught decomposed in a Prius which is what would happen if I attempted to drag race with one. Slow, fugally, oil burnin, depreciating pile. But that's just my opinion, Enjoy ;)
  24. RonI

    Steering Wheel Controls Including Horn Dead

    Well, It's a common problem on BMWs but my S hasn't had any issues like this. The part involved is often called the clock spring, it's gone through quite a few changes over the years and todays cars often include the stalks and other switches behind the steering wheel. Basically at it's heart...
  25. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    Understand your frustrations but I can tell you with certainty that a BMW, MBZ, Audi or Porsche out of warranty is 10X worse. $2400 headlight? try 4k. Not to mention $3-5 k per year in "regular repairs and maintenance"
  26. RonI

    What's your predicted loyalty to Tesla whenever replacing current car?

    As a mechanic of 30+ years, I can say Tesla makes cars that last. Other manufacturers have gone cheap and it shows in their longevity. I see broken BMW and MINI vehicles every day and the problems come from cost cutting. My '16 S has had some small issues but compared to a BMW for which it's...